Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

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  • pocketwatch62
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
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    #161
    Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

    voltage as follows
    with all boards connected and TV on, but no backlights.

    psb:
    1. B13V----12.88v

    2. DIM----2.77v

    3. B13V----12.87V

    4. NC -0V

    5. B13V----12.87v

    6.BLU_ON---5.14

    7. B13V---5.14v

    8., 9., 10 GND- 0V

    11.B5V---5.17V

    12 A5V---5.18V

    13. B5V---5.17V

    14. PS_ON---3.30V
    Last edited by pocketwatch62; 07-25-2019, 12:15 PM.

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    • pocketwatch62
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
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      #162
      Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

      correction

      BLU_on---5.14v

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      • nomoresonys
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        • Jan 2013
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        #163
        Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

        recheck 7, looks like it should be 13.
        Last edited by nomoresonys; 07-25-2019, 12:19 PM.

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        • nomoresonys
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          #164
          Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

          Guess we need to figure out why 7 is only 5 volts.
          Last edited by nomoresonys; 07-25-2019, 12:32 PM.

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          • Diah
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2013
            • 6363
            • Germany

            #165
            Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

            you disconnect the MB from PWB the led back light blinked for second or less.. you have bad back light... take screen apart and keep the MB disconnected to repair the LED back light until they all on and stay on.

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            • nomoresonys
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              • Jan 2013
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              #166
              Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

              Unplug inverter/s from powerboard, (best practice is always unplug tv from outlet before unplug any cables etc. then plug tv back in outlet and try it) see if 7 comes up to 13 volts.

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              • nomoresonys
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                #167
                Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

                If powerboard isn't fully working there's no need to go further until it works correctly.

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                • budm
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                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #168
                  Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

                  1) Pin 7 is more likely to be OP measurement notes error.
                  2) This TV does not have LED backights, it has CCFL
                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...8&d=1519166063
                  3) You need to check the DCV between the two legs of the main filter cap to see if you have PFC Boosted Voltage of 380 ~ 400VDC or not for the inverter Transformer drive circuit to work.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • nomoresonys
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 12145
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                    #169
                    Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

                    Originally posted by budm
                    1) Pin 7 is more likely to be OP measurement notes error.
                    2) This TV does not have LED backights, it has CCFL
                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...8&d=1519166063
                    3) You need to check the DCV between the two legs of the main filter cap to see if you have PFC Boosted Voltage of 380 ~ 400VDC or not for the inverter Transformer drive circuit to work.
                    He did, post 160.

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                    • nomoresonys
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 12145
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                      #170
                      Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

                      Check the little blue capacitor by the filter caps labeled CPxxx something like that. Did you heat the powerboard with a hairdryer?
                      Last edited by nomoresonys; 07-25-2019, 04:12 PM.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #171
                        Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

                        Originally posted by pocketwatch62
                        nomoresonys,

                        The main filters comes up to 415 DCV for a split second the settles down to 159 DCV.
                        CP804 looks good but i know that don't mean nothing.
                        Do i need to remove it and check it?
                        Sounds like the PFC Boosted Voltage did kick on but went up over 400V so it may have trigger PFC shutdown so the Voltage goes back down to 160V.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • pocketwatch62
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 74
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                          #172
                          Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

                          with main board disconnected the backlights flash for a second and all of them come on and are white, no black ends on the CCFL's buy the way i have 5.14 on BLU_ON with main board connected.

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                          • pocketwatch62
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
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                            #173
                            Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

                            nomoresonys

                            Heating the power board makes no change.

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                            • pocketwatch62
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2013
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                              #174
                              Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

                              Sorry pin 7 B13V reads 12.87 DVC.

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                              • nomoresonys
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                                • Jan 2013
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                                #175
                                Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

                                Originally posted by pocketwatch62
                                with main board disconnected the backlights flash for a second and all of them come on and are white, no black ends on the CCFL's buy the way i have 5.14 on BLU_ON with main board connected.
                                If backlights come on and stay on, then usually it points to a problem with mainboard, sometimes panel or tcon.

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                                • nomoresonys
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                                  • Jan 2013
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                                  #176
                                  Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

                                  Originally posted by pocketwatch62
                                  Sorry pin 7 B13V reads 12.87 DVC.
                                  Thought it was, would be pretty strange to only be missing one 13.

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                                  • R_J
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Jun 2012
                                    • 9535
                                    • Canada

                                    #177
                                    Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

                                    .
                                    Last edited by R_J; 07-26-2019, 10:34 AM.

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                                    • nomoresonys
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Jan 2013
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                                      #178
                                      Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

                                      Might be a dirty or oxidized connection, try unlug n replug the cable from powerboard to mainboard on both ends a few times, carefully just want to make sure there's good contact.
                                      Last edited by nomoresonys; 07-26-2019, 10:38 AM.

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                                      • pocketwatch62
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                                        • Jan 2013
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                                        #179
                                        Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

                                        would the backlights stay on if the CCFLS are ok with the main board disconnected or just flash for a split second which is what they are doing with the main board disconnected.

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                                        • nomoresonys
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                                          • Jan 2013
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                                          #180
                                          Re: Need help with Samsung LN40E550f7f

                                          Test the bl-on pin again, see if it changes voltages when you hit power.

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