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  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30928
    • Albion

    #301
    Re: ESR meter upgrades

    that's it, the 2.5v reference.
    the pullup *if it's fitted* needs to be replaced by a 2k2 resistor.

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    • vinceroger69
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      • Mar 2012
      • 6714
      • uk

      #302
      Re: ESR meter upgrades

      Originally posted by stj
      that's it, the 2.5v reference.
      the pullup *if it's fitted* needs to be replaced by a 2k2 resistor.
      no resistor fitted at all in R16 spot

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      • stj
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        • Dec 2009
        • 30928
        • Albion

        #303
        Re: ESR meter upgrades

        part numbers mean nothing on that board - that r16 is related to a battery charger.

        use your meter to resistance-check between pin27 and 5v (pins 4 or 6)
        if it's over 100k then we assume there is no resistor.
        check with probes both ways.

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        • vinceroger69
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          • Mar 2012
          • 6714
          • uk

          #304
          Re: ESR meter upgrades

          0.14 both ways on 200k this is the picture ive been looking at on eeblog same meter hes removed the D1 and fitted the lm 4040 there? this is where im lost where too place it please remember stj im learning as im going my board has version 1.05k on it as just ran a self check
          Attached Files
          Last edited by vinceroger69; 07-07-2016, 05:35 AM.

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          • stj
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            • Dec 2009
            • 30928
            • Albion

            #305
            Re: ESR meter upgrades

            actually, your right - it is that diode.
            so do what he did - just do it neater

            now i want to know why he fitted a couple of caps on the cpu.
            i have to go check the pdf.

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            • vinceroger69
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              • Mar 2012
              • 6714
              • uk

              #306
              Re: ESR meter upgrades

              thanks stj i was getting confused too it looks like he has left one leg of the lm4040 un connected to anything? tom66 mentions in the thread about those caps too not sure what they do though? its a long thread on eeblog this one catching up but hey im learning so alls good.

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              • stj
                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                • Dec 2009
                • 30928
                • Albion

                #307
                Re: ESR meter upgrades

                lm4040 pin1 is not used.
                just cut it off.

                those caps he added are .1uf across the power for extra smoothing.
                he also changed the 78L05 regulator for something better.
                Attached Files

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                • vinceroger69
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                  • Mar 2012
                  • 6714
                  • uk

                  #308
                  Re: ESR meter upgrades

                  cheers stj ive just been reading the tester pdf thanks for your help so far i will start fitting parts soon the 10 pin header programer has just come in the post, im just popping out too pick that free programer up too as ive noticed that link i posted from ebay its gone up from £20.00 to £40.00 so not going too turn down a boxed freebie.

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                  • stj
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                    • Dec 2009
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                    • Albion

                    #309
                    Re: ESR meter upgrades

                    just remember the pin numbers on the pdf may be for the 28pin dil package.
                    here is a schem of a GM328a showing how your kits probably are - or atleast close to.
                    Attached Files

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                    • stj
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                      • Dec 2009
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                      • Albion

                      #310
                      Re: ESR meter upgrades

                      you know, for that old board, this may be better:
                      http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/idc-connectors/0471109/

                      then you can re-program it without removing the display.
                      good thing RS has no minimum orders

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                      • vinceroger69
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 6714
                        • uk

                        #311
                        Re: ESR meter upgrades

                        Originally posted by stj
                        you know, for that old board, this may be better:
                        http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/idc-connectors/0471109/

                        then you can re-program it without removing the display.
                        good thing RS has no minimum orders
                        cheers stj added 2 to my next order i place for now im working on that 2016 kit i brought you recomended changing the crystal and a transistor and adding the header this is the part i ordered
                        http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/voltag...ences/5343037/
                        which one do i swop it with on the 2016 pcb? as im going too start this project later as all the parts have come now.

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                        • stj
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                          • Dec 2009
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                          #312
                          Re: ESR meter upgrades

                          you swap it with the ??431
                          BUT the pins are not in the same place,
                          you need to cut one pin off the LM4040 and then put it in offset to one side.
                          Attached Files

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                          • stj
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                            • Dec 2009
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                            #313
                            Re: ESR meter upgrades

                            btw, do you have kynar wire?

                            personally i would skip the cheap chipsocket - just more contacts to add resistance.

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                            • vinceroger69
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 6714
                              • uk

                              #314
                              Re: ESR meter upgrades

                              Originally posted by stj
                              btw, do you have kynar wire?

                              personally i would skip the cheap chipsocket - just more contacts to add resistance.
                              i was just comfirming about the voltage regulator so thats fine, and i can order some kynar wire, and your thinking remove the socket and solder chip to the board?
                              Last edited by vinceroger69; 07-10-2016, 04:05 PM.

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                              • stj
                                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                • Dec 2009
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                                • Albion

                                #315
                                Re: ESR meter upgrades

                                if you already soldered it then may as well leave it for now.

                                kynar is fine insulated silver-coated wire that is good for patching boards.
                                it is fine enough to go through the pcb with component pins.

                                you dont need it, but it's nice to use.
                                a bit expensive though.

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                                • vinceroger69
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Mar 2012
                                  • 6714
                                  • uk

                                  #316
                                  Re: ESR meter upgrades

                                  Stj i thought i would try that tl866 progrmmer i picked up when i try too read the good working atmeg328p all what it comes up with is ff on all the read info no data etc are these chips copy protected? have you got the complete hex file with boot files etc inc as i just want to test this programmer and also get the esr kit i built working (which works fine is i use the other atmeg 328p ic) for some reason it just wont read the good chip? so i cant copy contents from it.
                                  Last edited by vinceroger69; 07-12-2016, 07:58 AM.

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                                  • stj
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                                    • Dec 2009
                                    • 30928
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                                    #317
                                    Re: ESR meter upgrades

                                    EZ studio's chips are protected.
                                    no big deal as it's just the regular code from the author.

                                    try this one.
                                    Attached Files

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                                    • vinceroger69
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Mar 2012
                                      • 6714
                                      • uk

                                      #318
                                      Re: ESR meter upgrades

                                      hi tried that although the screen now stays on it has two rows of scrolling symbols thats all

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                                      • stj
                                        Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                        • Dec 2009
                                        • 30928
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                                        #319
                                        Re: ESR meter upgrades

                                        hows the contrast?

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                                        • vinceroger69
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Mar 2012
                                          • 6714
                                          • uk

                                          #320
                                          Re: ESR meter upgrades

                                          that was ok same as my working unit just to comfirm im still using the 8mz crystal so i opened the 8mhz data and put the three files into the programmer make file, ,and the hex one then wrote data to chip is that the correct way

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