Goontrons main (AMD) rig V3

**stj** · 10-29-2014, 11:47 PM

Re: Goontrons main (AMD) rig V3

no, they are the ones that keep asking for a security smartcard or password to boot.

the intel chipset needs a heatsink, but they designed it wih the wifi card going over the chip before they realised it.
so they bodged it by sticking a sheet of thick ally foil over the chip - then fitting the wifi card.

the result is it lasts about as long as a european warranty, then the soldering fails.
you have to remove the wifi, and the foil.
then reflow the chip and bond a real heatsink to it.
obviously the space for the wifi is then gone.

**luke10050** · 10-30-2014, 03:59 AM

Re: Goontrons main (AMD) rig V3

Originally posted by c_hegge

The CPUs themselves are rarely the problem. The real problem is that, when the manufacturer goes cheap on the CPU, they naturally cheap out elsewhere too, including on the motherboard.

What I really hate is the E series APUs. I have an ASUS laptop with an E-350 APU right next to me now which I am fixing for a customer. I can't believe anyone would put up with a PC this sluggish. Then again, the Intel Bay Trail based Celerons (N2806 for instance) aren't much better.

hey, i love my dell inspiron 1122 (m102z) i was silly enough in 2012 to buy a $900 pc based around an amd e-350, it did have a half-a-day battery life though (and still does). Honestly, they are good for a 11.6" notebook with a fast drive and a decent amount of ram, i only bought it as it was relatively light (if only i had known about lenovo x series back then).

**ratdude747** · 10-30-2014, 04:21 AM

Re: Goontrons main (intel) rig V3

Originally posted by stj

you obviously never had any HP NC62xx series laptops then.
the only fix is a reflow, a custom heatsink and losing the wifi.

I know the Nc6000's were plagued with max1986 chips of doom... I got a dead one to part many moons ago (I was lucky, it had a 1gb DDR module in it!)

**stj** · 10-30-2014, 05:20 AM

Re: Goontrons main (AMD) rig V3

max1986 chips?
what's that about?

the problem i know is with the main large intel bga.
i got a dead one with 4gig of ram and a 1.7ghz cpu for free btw just needed a drive.
(and a reflow)

**ratdude747** · 10-30-2014, 06:35 AM

Re: Goontrons main (AMD) rig V3

Originally posted by stj

max1986 chips?
what's that about?

the problem i know is with the main large intel bga.
i got a dead one with 4gig of ram and a 1.7ghz cpu for free btw just needed a drive.
(and a reflow)

Some weird IC that was failure prone... and would cause a no-POST condition. A new chip would last only as long as the old one did too.

dit- it's the max1987 chip, not 1986. bad memory over here.

**blasterboomer** · 10-30-2014, 09:20 AM

Re: Goontrons main (AMD) rig V3

whats this about the AMD chips being defective? ive never heard of this... although i mainly use intel, my server uses an AMD FX6300

**c_hegge** · 10-30-2014, 02:51 PM

Re: Goontrons main (AMD) rig V3

Originally posted by luke10050

hey, i love my dell inspiron 1122 (m102z) i was silly enough in 2012 to buy a $900 pc based around an amd e-350, it did have a half-a-day battery life though (and still does). Honestly, they are good for a 11.6" notebook with a fast drive and a decent amount of ram, i only bought it as it was relatively light (if only i had known about lenovo x series back then).

A netbook, maybe. But there's no excuse under the sun for using the E series in a full sized 15.6" laptop. You can easily fit a bigger chip in there, and, unless you really strip windows 7 back (like in the starter edition bundled with netbooks), or run XP, they are horribly slow.

**Th3_uN1Qu3** · 10-30-2014, 03:46 PM

Re: Goontrons main (AMD) rig V3

Originally posted by ratdude747

Some weird IC that was failure prone... and would cause a no-POST condition. A new chip would last only as long as the old one did too.

dit- it's the max1987 chip, not 1986. bad memory over here.

Not the chips. The position in which they were fitted in. On the NC6000 motherboard, the MAX1987 controlling the CPU Vcore, is very very close to the edge of the board, and there's a screw right next to it. If you move the notebook a lot, the connections to the MAX1987 will break due to board flexing. It's a design flaw of this particular notebook.

Last month I had a NC6000 in for servicing with several issues (no sound/no touchpad/random no POST). The sound was due to a broken headphone jack, the touchpad ribbon had shorted out due to someone's negligence (could have actually been my own, last year when i cleaned it), and the no POST was the MAX1987.

All i did was redo the soldering on the MAX1987 and all was fine. And you know, it's around 9 years old. I'd say it held up fine.

**ratdude747** · 10-30-2014, 04:57 PM

Re: Goontrons main (AMD) rig V3

Funny, redoing mine had no effect. Odd. The laptop is history now.

**goontron** · 11-01-2014, 07:21 PM

Re: Goontrons main (AMD) rig V3

well, you thought the Quantum would be the oldest thing on this computer? no, im now using an IBM model M keyboard.

**momaka** · 11-02-2014, 09:50 AM

Re: Goontrons main (AMD) rig V3

I approve the Model M keyboard upgrade

I have one as well, but I prefer my Dell QuietKey since it has a Windows and menu keys.

**goontron** · 11-02-2014, 01:43 PM

Re: Goontrons main (AMD) rig V3

Originally posted by momaka

I approve the Model M keyboard upgrade

I have one as well, but I prefer my Dell QuietKey since it has a Windows and menu keys.

the superkey on my system is ALT, so i have no need for a windows key.

**RJARRRPCGP** · 11-02-2014, 01:53 PM

Re: Goontrons main (AMD) rig V3

Originally posted by blasterboomer

whats this about the AMD chips being defective? ive never heard of this... although i mainly use intel, my server uses an AMD FX6300

Phenom Is, whose numbers end in "00" have a defect.

OTOH, I'm happy with my FX 8350!

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