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  • ZappedAgain
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 49
    • USA

    #1

    Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

    Trying to save a Viewsonic VX900 from the landfill. Monitor will turn on with a green light but there is no backlight. Flashlight reveals that the image is there. Was able to find a service manual and was able to follow a troubleshooting chart which says I have a bad inverter. I believe I agree with this diagnosis. Here is what I have done.
    1. Checked all connections to the inverter.
    2 Checked for 5v and 12v to the inverter at the proper locations.
    3. Checked Q2 Q3 Q11 Q12 no shorts appear to be good.
    4. No bad solder joints
    5. 2 fuses near CN1 are both good 0 ohms
    6. Checked D1 and D2 no shorts.

    A new inverter is available for 35.00 but that is probably about what the monitor is worth. Would love to fix it if I can. Could it be bad caps? They look Fine 100uf 35v KMF x 2

    I am willing to put the time in just too cheap to spend the money on a new inverter.
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

    So, you do not notice the backligts ever flash on for seconds if you at it in the dark room?
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • Rtech
      Badcaps Legend
      • Jul 2010
      • 1095

      #3
      Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

      Transformer secondary resistances ???

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      • Davi.p
        Hobbist Tech
        • Sep 2009
        • 4287
        • Italy - Milan

        #4
        Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

        After that if all ok open the screen and watch for damaged solderings at the lamps or darkened ends.

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        • ZappedAgain
          Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 49
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

          Budm

          Yes if i Turn the monitor off and back on with a PC connected I get a display for about half a second.

          Rtech

          Secondaries measure .2 ohms between all 4 pins both transformers.

          Davi.P

          I have a ccfl tester. It has the small ccfl connectors. I will get out the alligator clip leads and connect and test the ccfl's

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          • Davi.p
            Hobbist Tech
            • Sep 2009
            • 4287
            • Italy - Milan

            #6
            Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

            lamp connectors are protected, i think there's no space for alligators.. you can solder wires..

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            • selldoor
              Slow Learner
              • Dec 2010
              • 7870

              #7
              Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

              Originally posted by ZappedAgain
              Budm


              Secondaries measure .2 ohms between all 4 pins both transformers.
              That doesnt sound correct did you have your meter on 2000 ohms.
              If not try again - can you see a part number on a transformer
              Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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              • ZappedAgain
                Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 49
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

                Ok First Readings on the Transformer Secondaries where made with an autoranging fluke 116.

                Remeasured with a Wavetek
                on 2000 range readings between all four connectors is 0.0
                on 200 range readings are 1.2 ohms on all connectors both transformers.

                Ken

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                • selldoor
                  Slow Learner
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7870

                  #9
                  Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

                  Cant believe they are all shorted. Must be using the wrong tabs
                  Can you make out the part number.
                  Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                  • Davi.p
                    Hobbist Tech
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 4287
                    • Italy - Milan

                    #10
                    Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

                    Selldoor if you watch the picture you see that pins on output are united by a track (don't ask me why) , i think this is not new in my memory, maybe lamp connectors are connected 1 pin to the transf. & 1 pin to chassis ground.
                    Last edited by Davi.p; 12-24-2013, 07:44 PM.

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                    • Davi.p
                      Hobbist Tech
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 4287
                      • Italy - Milan

                      #11
                      Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

                      To the OP: after the ccfl test i think if you have initially worn lamps you can continue to use them by re-trim the feedback, locate D3 and D4 diodies , D3 is to the right of Big L1.. from them 1 leg arrives to a resistor that goes to gnd, that must be swapped with 2 trimmers for measurements, set it to the same value of smd resistor then mount them, switch on the mon. see if lamps works, if not increase a bit the value of both, switch off and on, if it don't stay on repeat, if yes decrease both until ccfl goes off, then increase a bit, see if is a good value then dismount them measure them and replace with same value or a bit higher smd resistor.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

                        The inverter transformer drive is ROYER Self Oscillating circuit, the amount of lamp brightness is adjusted by using variable DC feeding the OSC, it is done by the MOSFET Q8, 2, D2 (Q1, L1, D1 for the other channel) the Pulse width signal from the PWM IC is used to drive the Gate of the MOSFETs. If the MOSFET Q1/Q8 has shorted S to D, the lamp will be fully on all the time. The PWM will be not be sending the signal to turn on the MOSFET if it detects open lamp (lamp not connected or will not stay on after firing voltage is applied), or circuit draws too much current. So anything goes wrong in the first 3 seconds, the circuit will go into shutdown (this 3 second time out can be bypass for troubleshooting purpose by grounding one of the pin on the IC).
                        One end of the lamp is connected to the ballast cap then the transformer winding, the other end of the lamp is connected to the resistor/diode network for the lamp sensing circuit.
                        So, did you check or replace the two electrolytic caps C1, C24 yet? Try heating them up with hair dryer.
                        C2, C3 of the Royer Osc also need to be checked.
                        You can also have bad lamp assembly that needs to be verify.
                        Bad lamps:
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/bud...?sort=3&page=1
                        Test lamps:
                        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19987
                        Attached Files
                        Last edited by budm; 12-24-2013, 09:11 PM.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • selldoor
                          Slow Learner
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 7870

                          #13
                          Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

                          Originally posted by Davi.p
                          Selldoor if you watch the picture you see that pins on output are united by a track (don't ask me why) , i think this is not new in my memory, maybe lamp connectors are connected 1 pin to the transf. & 1 pin to chassis ground.
                          Like I said, must be using the wrong tabs?
                          Last edited by selldoor; 12-25-2013, 03:46 AM.
                          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                          • Davi.p
                            Hobbist Tech
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 4287
                            • Italy - Milan

                            #14
                            Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

                            Originally posted by selldoor
                            Like I said, must be using the wrong tabs?
                            i don't know what do you mean..

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                            • tron
                              Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 47

                              #15
                              Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

                              secondary windings for backlight
                              have high resistance, 200mohm
                              is a low resistance reading

                              tabs are where
                              the transformer
                              pins come out
                              of the secondary
                              (high voltage/resistance side)
                              and go to light up the tubes

                              01 and V1...06 and V6

                              is the row where
                              the secondary side is in this
                              picture:

                              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...chmentid=13909

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                              • ZappedAgain
                                Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 49
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

                                Here is a picture to show where i measured the inverter transformers. Hope this clarifies things. I will work on making sense of the other post to give it a try.
                                I am not a professional at this.
                                Attached Files

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                                • selldoor
                                  Slow Learner
                                  • Dec 2010
                                  • 7870

                                  #17
                                  Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

                                  You have still not advised the part numbers off the inverter transformers.
                                  and I cant quite read it -its in black on that orangey transparent plastic.
                                  Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

                                    Yes, we need the P/N as printed on the transformer to look up the pin out.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                    Comment

                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

                                      Try this reading, it is similar to one of the transformer I worked on before:
                                      Attached Files
                                      Last edited by budm; 12-25-2013, 08:07 PM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                      Comment

                                      • ZappedAgain
                                        Member
                                        • Mar 2011
                                        • 49
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Viewsonic VX900 Bad Inverter

                                        Transformer has the following Numbers on top in two lines
                                        2801947600
                                        DC6M 0313

                                        Thanks Guys and Merry Christmas.

                                        Ken

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