Even though I don't understand how the main board could cause this type of display issue, I'm going to try disconnecting it and getting a test pattern on the tcon. Depending on the shades of colors in that pattern I may not see the band anyway 😒
It just doesn't make sense that it appears in some shades but not others, particularly in light but not in dark....
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I tried. They cleaned up nicely too.. Didn't look blown, burnt, or anything like that. The band was still present tho. I checked them for ground shorts and they all tested good....Leave a comment:
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You sir led me to double check the area closely.. And I found the issue! Question is, can I replace then? Does the value matter significantly, or can I replace them with ones of similar physical size?
Edit: so I tried cleaning them with alcohol and they all cleaned up nicely. No physical damage that can be seen. I even checked for ground shorts on them and they all tested good. However, I still have the band 😔 what's really strange though is that if you look at the attached pictures, you cannot see it at all except for on the lightest shades of color. Like literally, it does not...Last edited by x_orange90_x; 04-12-2025, 09:11 PM.Leave a comment:
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Attached are the two boards, the original and the one I mentioned. It looks like it has all the same connectors except for the power button. It's from a 50S421.
I just want to see if the vertical band appears, but if the screen won't display right because of the size difference, I probably won't notice, right?
Edit: nevermind that, I see it's missing another connector for the LED inverter....Last edited by x_orange90_x; 04-11-2025, 04:48 PM.Leave a comment:
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😆 I just realized a couple nights ago when I was standing it up that it was 55", and then the Roku app said 55 and I'm like oh ya lol. Props to you for catching that...Leave a comment:
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It's just a loose board in my drawer. No idea what TV I pulled it from as it's long gone. I simply want to see if the band appears. If the screen is jumbled I guess that wouldn't really help me would it 🤔 nonetheless I'll post pictures of it shortly when I get home...Leave a comment:
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I found a board in my collection from a 4 series, 421 I believe, that has all of the same connectors except for the power button. If it hooks up right, is there a way to turn it on without the button? Is it safe to even try this board? I'll post pictures of it later....Leave a comment:
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Hmm. I don't own one of those unfortunately. Any other way to narrow it down?...Leave a comment:
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BGA connection issue?...Leave a comment:
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See attached photos of both icons.
I checked along the underside of each ribbon on both the LCD side and the scaler side. I did not find any corrosion at all. I also didn't notice any COF getting particularly hot. I will double check these things again next time I go to mess with it....Leave a comment:
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I think maybe you're misunderstanding what's happening here.
Original tcon = perfect image other than this wide translucent band
Replacement tcon = Constant flashing screen, thin black vertical line, polarized colors
I've swapped between them several times now. The results are always the same. The same symptoms always immediately begin when I put the replacement in. They always go away when I swap back to old one.
Water damage is possibly not even a factor. The guy said a dehumidifier hose running across the ceiling dripped into the tv and he...Last edited by x_orange90_x; 04-09-2025, 12:07 PM.Leave a comment:
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The single black line is only present with the replacement tcon from eBay that I have deemed defective. The below image is what I have now, and part of, the original problem....
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Being that it's a single band always in the same spot it couldn't be anything but the scaler board it the LCD ribbon connecting it, right? I verified the capacitors are not shorted, and upon visual inspection everything looks fine. I really, really expected to find corrosion down there....Leave a comment:
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I believe I mentioned that in the very first post. So far though I have not seen any indication of water ever being inside. No corrosion on any components, no splash or water stains anywhere,, nothing. I HAVE swapped out the ribbons from the tcon to panel from another tv but that made no difference. I don't believe I have a spare lvds cable but I will check later. I'm not sure where to go from here. The band is so light on most colors it's almost not noticable... But on the you can see it quite clearly. I've also noticed a faint pink "fuzz" along the top and side edges, most noticable...Leave a comment:
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Are you saying BGA is the cause of the band, or it's the cause of the lines after a few minutes? Keep in mind the guy I got this from said water dripped into it from his ceiling and after that it showed the lines. That's why I'm looking for corrosion.
I think I know why the replacement isn't working properly. None of the packaging is anti-static, and it obviously goes through X-ray machines at the post office. Perhaps it got EMF damage? It was in a black bubble envelope inside of a regular paper mailing envelope.
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I put the new tcon back in after cleaning the...Last edited by x_orange90_x; 04-08-2025, 08:13 PM.Leave a comment:
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What leads you to think it's the main board though? The original symptoms of going to black and white stripes after a few minutes? Or the vertical shadow band on the right hand side? I honestly think the band is something happening at the tab bond. Originally I thought it would go away replacing the tcon but I still could see it.
My next method of attack here is going to be to spray the contacts of the new tcon with contact cleaner and try it again. I'll also leave it on for longer and see if it goes to stripes like the original does.
50-55" are my hot sellers...Leave a comment:
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This was their reply this morning:
"Hello, I confirmed from our team that the circuit board was removed from a TV with a cracked screen. There were no issues with the screen flickering and jumping ad you mentioned. Also, it seems that the screen flickering issue is usually a digitizer/screen issue.
The TCON board was working 100% when it was dispatched"
I replied with
"My screen does not flicker or present the black line with my original board installed. How can they certify the TIMING CONTROL board is working properly when they can't...Last edited by x_orange90_x; 04-08-2025, 08:26 AM.Leave a comment:
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I haven't heard back from the seller since I told them their board was defective. They said they test everything prior and they would check with their "team" and get back to me 🙄
Meanwhile I'm thinking about pulling the bezel off and checking for corrosion or the like on the tab bond where the band displays. Photo attached to again show what the band looks like....Leave a comment:
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I received the tcon yesterday and put it in this morning and it appears to be defective. The screen continuously flashes and there are snowy horizontal lines in the picture as well as a stationary black vertical line to right side of the screen. I blew the connectors out with canned air thinking maybe some debris was inside not that made no difference.
When I put my original board back in these issues disappear. I did still notice the vertical band with the new board, so I'm thinking I may have a dirty tab bond on the panel side of the ribbon....Leave a comment:
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