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  • vikivng
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Feb 2019
    • 222
    • uk

    #41
    Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

    Originally posted by vikivng
    Hi budm
    connected= 000.4
    not connected=144kΩ
    Sorry budm
    I have no idea what happened before.
    Now I am getting 000.4 in both instances.
    Plug disconnected from the socket yes.
    Just to be clear what I am doing,,one probe is on the IR out test point circled and the other is on the ground side of the capacitor also circled.
    Is this the correct procedure.?

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #42
      Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

      CORRECTION! CORRECTION! I look real close at the 7-pin connector of the IR receiver module again and did more research about this IR receiver board, PIN 1 of the connector is the IR out, NOT PIN 2! PIN 2 is circuit GND.
      So retest the IR OUT at pin 1 of the connector again, ground point is still at the GND as marked.
      I found board layout for TNPA5915 which is basically the same board layout as TNPS61010, I found out by searching where TNPA6010 is used in.
      See updated pictures and schematic.
      Attached Files
      Last edited by budm; 06-23-2020, 05:23 PM.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • vikivng
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Feb 2019
        • 222
        • uk

        #43
        Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

        Originally posted by budm
        CORRECTION! CORRECTION! I look real close at the 7-pin connector of the IR receiver module again and did more research about this IR receiver board, PIN 1 of the connector is the IR out, NOT PIN 2! PIN 2 is circuit GND.
        So retest the IR OUT at pin 1 of the connector again, ground point is still at the GND as marked.
        I found board layout for TNPA5915 which is basically the same board layout as TNPS61010, I found out by searching where TNPA6010 is used in.
        See updated pictures and schematic.
        Ok budm
        connected=OL
        not connected=168
        For clarity,I tested at the actual test point and not at the actual pin.
        Let me know if this makes a difference.
        Last edited by vikivng; 06-23-2020, 05:28 PM.

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        • vikivng
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Feb 2019
          • 222
          • uk

          #44
          Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

          I have to go to bed now but really appreciate the help.
          Ill be back on early to check for any updates etc.
          Goodnight

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #45
            Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

            Originally posted by vikivng
            Ok budm
            connected=OL
            not connected=168
            For clarity,I tested at the actual test point and not at the actual pin.
            Let me know if this makes a difference.
            What are those readings? Ohms? Volts?
            Check the Voltage at the IR out as shown in the updated pictures to see if you get any Voltage activities when you hit the remote control buttons.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • petehall347
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2015
              • 4426
              • United Kingdom

              #46
              Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

              i do think you are best to get the correct remote for the set and start again .

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              • vikivng
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Feb 2019
                • 222
                • uk

                #47
                Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                Originally posted by budm
                What are those readings? Ohms? Volts?
                Check the Voltage at the IR out as shown in the updated pictures to see if you get any Voltage activities when you hit the remote control buttons.
                All are OHms

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                • vikivng
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Feb 2019
                  • 222
                  • uk

                  #48
                  Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                  Ok at those new test points,
                  I am now getting a voltage drop when remote buttons pressed.
                  Power button forces volt drop from 3.2 to 2.9v
                  Other buttons 3.2v to 3.1v

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                  • vikivng
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Feb 2019
                    • 222
                    • uk

                    #49
                    Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                    Originally posted by petehall347
                    i do think you are best to get the correct remote for the set and start again .
                    Hi petehall
                    could it be that 2 genuine Panasonic remotes do nothing at all.?
                    I guess ill try a universal remote.

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #50
                      Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                      So you do see activities at the IR OUT test point as shown in the updated pictures?
                      If that is the case, the IR module is not dead. May be you do need to get the correct remote for this TV.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                      Comment

                      • vikivng
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Feb 2019
                        • 222
                        • uk

                        #51
                        Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                        Originally posted by budm
                        So you do see activities at the IR OUT test point as shown in the updated pictures?
                        If that is the case, the IR module is not dead. May be you do need to get the correct remote for this TV.
                        Yes budm I do get the voltage changes yes.
                        So we can conclude that from these tests it MUST be the wrong remote.?

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #52
                          Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                          Originally posted by vikivng
                          Yes budm I do get the voltage changes yes.
                          So we can conclude that from these tests it MUST be the wrong remote.?
                          Not 100% since the IR OUT may not be 100% good, we only know that it has activity but may not be putting out proper signal.
                          The remotes that you have right now, what TV models are they made for?
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • vikivng
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Feb 2019
                            • 222
                            • uk

                            #53
                            Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                            Originally posted by budm
                            Not 100% since the IR OUT may not be 100% good, we only know that it has activity but may not be putting out proper signal.
                            The remotes that you have right now, what TV models are they made for?
                            Genuine Panasonic remotes.
                            One is for the tx 48cx400b .The other I bought specifically for this tv.I dont know the original model it was for.
                            Attached Files

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                            • vikivng
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Feb 2019
                              • 222
                              • uk

                              #54
                              Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                              Originally posted by budm
                              Not 100% since the IR OUT may not be 100% good, we only know that it has activity but may not be putting out proper signal.
                              The remotes that you have right now, what TV models are they made for?
                              Is there a test for this I can carry out.?

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                              • diif
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 6978
                                • England

                                #55
                                Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                                Originally posted by vikivng
                                Genuine Panasonic remotes.
                                One is for the tx 48cx400b .The other I bought specifically for this tv.I dont know the original model it was for.
                                These look like the remotes for Vestel made Panasonic TVs, your TV is a proper Panasonic. I wonder if that is the issue.

                                Photo of the remote that originally came with the TV.
                                Attached Files
                                Last edited by diif; 06-24-2020, 05:07 AM.

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                                • vinceroger69
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Mar 2012
                                  • 6714
                                  • uk

                                  #56
                                  Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                                  did you ever try a universal remote control?

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                                  • vikivng
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Feb 2019
                                    • 222
                                    • uk

                                    #57
                                    Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                                    Originally posted by vinceroger69
                                    did you ever try a universal remote control?
                                    Hi,
                                    I will try one today..

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                                    • vikivng
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Feb 2019
                                      • 222
                                      • uk

                                      #58
                                      Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                                      Originally posted by diif
                                      These look like the remotes for Vestel made Panasonic TVs, your TV is a proper Panasonic. I wonder if that is the issue.

                                      Photo of the remote that originally came with the TV.
                                      Actually,
                                      I did take a look at the mainboard of the other Panasonic and you are correct.!!
                                      It has a Vestel board. Will be getting a universal today and will update.
                                      Thnx

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                                      • vikivng
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Feb 2019
                                        • 222
                                        • uk

                                        #59
                                        Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                                        Hi guys,
                                        I can confirm the tv works fine with a genuine non vestel remote.
                                        So would this mean there are 00s of customers out there scratching their heads wondering why the tv doesnt work after they lose the original remote and happen to purchase a vestel one.?

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #60
                                          Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                                          Just have to match the remote to the TV model.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                          Comment

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