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  • Mr_K
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 106

    #41
    Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

    Ok, lets start all over again.
    Here are the readings:
    On/Off 0V
    DIM 0,01V
    +12v 0V
    +12v
    Gnd
    Gnd
    Gnd
    24v 0V
    24v
    PS-on 0V
    5.2v 0V
    5.2v

    So yeah, basicly no output at all.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #42
      Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

      Can I get good focused pictures of these area so I can clearly see the traces and the designators?
      Attached Files
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      • Mr_K
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 106

        #43
        Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

        Sure, hope these are good enough. If you need anything else, pls let me know.
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        • budm
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          • Feb 2010
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          #44
          Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

          Thanks. Can you get the part number of that 7-pin DIP IC for that standby power supply section? Also pictures of the same section on the top side of the board.
          Never stop learning
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          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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          TV Factory reset codes listing:
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          • budm
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            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
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            #45
            Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

            OK, this is the best I can do by looking at the pictures.
            Please check and see if you do have B+1 voltage.
            Check the fusible resistors R9329, R9301 (I am not sure the exact values on these two resistors, cannot read the numbers on the body).
            Check ZD9302 for low resistance reading on both direction. I am surprised that the two MOV's did not blow up, or the main fuse.
            Attached Files
            Last edited by budm; 12-05-2012, 12:16 AM.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • Mr_K
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 106

              #46
              Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

              Wow, thank you very much!!!!!

              7-Pin IC is: A6069H SK1N1

              R9301 is 3,4Ohms (should be 3,3Ohms, so its fine)
              R9329 is 0,2Ohms (should be 0,1Ohms, so its fine)

              ZD9302: 3.5MOhms in one direction. Other direction is much higher

              B+1: 308V
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              • budm
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                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
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                #47
                Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                OK, next thing we need is the resistance reading on all 7 pins of that IC and the Primary ground. Since there is not much in that circuits beside the two star up caps (9336, 9337) and the IC. You may want to replace those two caps and the IC if they are cheap.
                I will have to look up the spec of the IC next.
                By the way, now you understand why I always ask for good clear focused pictures.
                Last edited by budm; 12-05-2012, 10:48 AM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • Mr_K
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 106

                  #48
                  Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                  Restistance according to "your" pinout. Actualy your pin 4 is pin 1. But i´ll stick to your counting....
                  1: 17MOhms
                  2: 0 Ohms
                  3: 228 Ohms
                  4: 3,3 Ohms
                  5+6: Starting at around 16M, going town to 1,4M and rapidly rising to a few K
                  8: Starting at around 8MOhms slowly dropping to 1,46M

                  I´ll have to order the IC first. But i´m afraight i wont get it in germany
                  Datasheet
                  Last edited by Mr_K; 12-05-2012, 11:01 AM. Reason: datasheet added

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
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                    #49
                    Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                    OK, here is the spec of the IC.


                    OK, I need to up date the pin out of the IC. I see two dot on the bottom side of the board by each end of the IC pin, so not sure which pin is pin1, now with the spec sheet now I see. I will update the drawing.
                    Please take the reading per spec sheet so I do not get confused, thanks.
                    Last edited by budm; 12-05-2012, 11:08 AM.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • Mr_K
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 106

                      #50
                      Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                      UPDATE:
                      1: 3,3Ohms
                      2: 228 KOhms
                      3: 0 Ohms / prim. Ground
                      4: 17MOhms
                      5: Starting at around 8MOhms slowly dropping to 1,46M
                      7+8: Starting at around 16M, going town to 1,4M and rapidly rising to a few K
                      Last edited by Mr_K; 12-05-2012, 11:58 AM.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
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                        #51
                        Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                        That pin two looks bad, it has resistor R9320 (20K) to ground and MLCC (C9333) in parallel. So it eother has internla short in side the IC or shorted MLCC C9333. Can you lift pin 2 off the board to see the reading on that pad 2 still showing 228 Ohms?
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • Mr_K
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 106

                          #52
                          Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                          It has 228KOhms. Missed the point.....
                          The pin reads 12,4MOhms. The pad still reads 228K

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #53
                            Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                            228kohm is bad though, with 20kohm in parallel, MAXIMUM reading is 20kohm.
                            Last edited by tom66; 12-05-2012, 01:16 PM.
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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #54
                              Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                              Yes, please check the number as printed on the body of that resistor, from the picture it looks like 203.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • tom66
                                EVs Rule
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
                                • UK

                                #55
                                Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                                Corrected my previous post, maximum is 20kohm, not minimum.
                                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                • Mr_K
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Apr 2011
                                  • 106

                                  #56
                                  Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  Yes, please check the number as printed on the body of that resistor, from the picture it looks like 203.
                                  R9320 is labled 2403 - so 240k
                                  Last edited by Mr_K; 12-05-2012, 01:53 PM.

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #57
                                    Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                                    by the way: "B+1: 308V" that seems low, what country are you in, it should be Line voltage x 1.414 = Voltage on the main filter cap.
                                    There is not much in the circuit, I would try replacing the IC, but should find out why you only have 308vdc instead of 330V or so.
                                    Attached Files
                                    Last edited by budm; 12-05-2012, 07:24 PM.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • Mr_K
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 106

                                      #58
                                      Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                                      I´ll try replacing the IC as soon as i can get it....might be more than a week or so.

                                      AC in ist 225vac; DC is 308vdc 10V less than expected. Is this still a problem?

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                                      • Mr_K
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 106

                                        #59
                                        Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                                        Update and A happy new Year everyone!

                                        Took some time to get my hands on the IC to replace the old one. After replacing, my readings are:
                                        Here are the readings:
                                        On/Off 0V
                                        DIM 0,01V
                                        +12v 0V
                                        +12v
                                        Gnd
                                        Gnd
                                        Gnd
                                        24v 0V
                                        24v
                                        PS-on 3.3V
                                        5.2v 3.3V
                                        5.2v 3.1V


                                        On standby, the front LED blinks three times followed by a longer break. I think this is related to missing 12V ?????

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                                        • Mr_K
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Apr 2011
                                          • 106

                                          #60
                                          Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                                          Update Resistance from every Pin to ground with a new IC A6069H SK1N1
                                          PINOUT according to datasheet!!

                                          1: 4 Ohms
                                          2: 198 KOhms
                                          3: 0 Ohms / prim. Ground
                                          4: 16,7 MOhms
                                          5: around 1M
                                          7+8: NOT steady

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