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  • proaudiosoft
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 68
    • USA

    #21
    Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

    Update, The resistor I soldered back in desoldered it self and came out again. grrr. Something is definitely making that resistors joints heat up to the point its falling out. Any and all help appreciated.

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    • stj
      Great Sage 齊天大聖
      • Dec 2009
      • 30950
      • Albion

      #22
      Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

      what resistor is it on the pcb, so i can look at the schematics.

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      • proaudiosoft
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        #23
        Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

        Originally posted by stj
        what resistor is it on the pcb, so i can look at the schematics.
        It is resistor r242 (on Neck board Black spot in photo)
        Attached Files

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        • budm
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          • Feb 2010
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          #24
          Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

          Picture of the bottom side of the board? You should also remove the black stuff and the glue off the board so we can see the Green paint lines on the top side of the board.
          Last edited by budm; 09-02-2016, 05:12 PM.
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          • stj
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            #25
            Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

            r242, then looking at the schematic,
            check d208, q211, q212 for shorts.

            also, check the resistance of r215, and r267 in the heater circuit.

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            • proaudiosoft
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              • Apr 2012
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              #26
              Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

              Originally posted by budm
              Picture of the bottom side of the board? You should also remove the black stuff and the glue off the board so we can see the Green paint lines on that resistor.
              ok, budm, will do when i get back from dinner

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              • proaudiosoft
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2012
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                #27
                Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                Originally posted by stj
                r242, then looking at the schematic,
                check d208, q211, q212 for shorts.

                also, check the resistance of r215, and r267 in the heater circuit.
                Will check and let you know, thanks!

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                • R_J
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 9529
                  • Canada

                  #28
                  Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                  That resistor is for the blue crt drive, even with it out you should get a picture, just missing blue. so I suspect once this fault is found there will be another

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                  • proaudiosoft
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 68
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                    #29
                    Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                    Originally posted by stj
                    r242, then looking at the schematic,
                    check d208, q211, q212 for shorts.

                    also, check the resistance of r215, and r267 in the heater circuit.
                    r242 is measuring 1.333k, d208 test good, q211 looks good to me, its npn right? E C B is what sheet i found said.

                    r215 reads 2.5 ohms (i think its marked 2), and r267 reads 1.1 ohm.
                    Interestingly, i accidently wrote q201 down instead of q211 at first, i tested it pulled and got readings everywhere, looks bad. 201 and 211 are c35502e resistors. I am going to take pics of the board with glue off as Budm requested too... Hope this gives you more insight

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                    • proaudiosoft
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                      • Apr 2012
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                      #30
                      Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                      Originally posted by budm
                      Picture of the bottom side of the board? You should also remove the black stuff and the glue off the board so we can see the Green paint lines on the top side of the board.
                      Here Are pics of the front and back of the board, I removed the glue and black junk around r242... I have a few transistors unsoldered and a resistors with a leg pulled out...
                      Attached Files

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                      • stj
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                        #31
                        Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                        so q212?

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                        • stj
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                          #32
                          Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                          q206 has broken solder joints, the narrow chip needs completely resoldering,
                          the resistor that fell out needs re-soldering.
                          by resoldering i mean remove the old solder first.

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                          • proaudiosoft
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                            #33
                            Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                            Originally posted by stj
                            so q212?
                            Oh left that out, q212 looked ok as far as I can tell too. About .658 B2E / B2C and open E2B and C2B
                            Last edited by proaudiosoft; 09-02-2016, 08:41 PM.

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                            • proaudiosoft
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                              #34
                              Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                              Originally posted by stj
                              q206 has broken solder joints, the narrow chip needs completely resoldering,
                              the resistor that fell out needs re-soldering.
                              by resoldering i mean remove the old solder first.
                              Yes, You are correct about q206, I am aware of the joints at that Transistor/sink. I believe it from recent handling and checking parts for solid mounting. And I know the Resistor needs re-soldering as well, I will make sure to remove the old first. I am afraid the trace on one end of r242 is trying to pull away from the board as well.
                              I would rather try to figure out the issue before making all the final connections. Wouldn't this be a good idea?

                              Would having a shorted q201 cause r242 to heat up? thx

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                              • proaudiosoft
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                                #35
                                Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                                Originally posted by stj
                                q206 has broken solder joints, the narrow chip needs completely resoldering,
                                the resistor that fell out needs re-soldering.
                                by resoldering i mean remove the old solder first.
                                I went ahead and pulled the Big board out too. If I cant get it, I am going to send the boards out to be repaired. Here are front/back pics if it helps anything
                                Attached Files
                                Last edited by proaudiosoft; 09-02-2016, 09:38 PM.

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                                • stj
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                                  • Dec 2009
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                                  #36
                                  Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                                  can you meter the pins on the back of the tube,
                                  all combinations.

                                  most will show nothing.
                                  what we are looking for is if the gun related to that resistor is shorted to something else - such as the heater!

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                                  • vinceroger69
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Mar 2012
                                    • 6714
                                    • uk

                                    #37
                                    Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                                    on the back picture of the mainboard theres one joint that looks bad too me ive marked it with a red arrow.
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                                    • proaudiosoft
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                                      #38
                                      Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                                      Originally posted by stj
                                      can you meter the pins on the back of the tube,
                                      all combinations.

                                      most will show nothing.
                                      what we are looking for is if the gun related to that resistor is shorted to something else - such as the heater!
                                      I checked. Any pins that show a reading together are in the Mega ohms, accept Pins 1 & 3 together, I get 1.1ohm. is this significant?

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                                      • stj
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                                        #39
                                        Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                                        1-3 is the heater, so that's all good.

                                        check q215, q220, d209 and sg204 < specially this.

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                                        • proaudiosoft
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                                          #40
                                          Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                                          Originally posted by stj
                                          1-3 is the heater, so that's all good.

                                          check q215, q220, d209 and sg204 < specially this.
                                          I meant to say pins 1&6 are about 1.1 ohm, is this still ok?

                                          I tested all the components you asked, all tested good.
                                          Last edited by proaudiosoft; 09-03-2016, 11:19 AM.

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