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  • momaka
    master hoarder
    • May 2008
    • 12164
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    #181
    Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

    Originally posted by ratdude747
    Then explain the artifacts it develops when you first boot it up... that get worse and worse the longer it is powered on? I have a PCI-E ATI card with the same issue... Every expert I talked to said that's a fried GPU (I was able to steal a Zalman GPU cooler off it at least; I used it to fix a 8400GS card).
    Reflow RAM and GPU. 2 out of the 4 Radeon 9700s I fixed still showed artifacts until I also reflowed the RAM.

    I'm not as familiar with the 9800 as I am with the 9700, but with the 9700, if you disconnect its power cable and turn on the computer, it will display a screen with a warning that the power cable is not connected. In this mode, the 9700 is not using the RAM or any sophisticated functions on the GPU so you get no artifacts. Good way to know if something else really is toast (if it is, you won't get to that screen). But again, that's for the Radeon 9700 only. Don't know if it works with the Radeon 9800

    Originally posted by ratdude747
    Perhaps we need a bulletin to newcomers not to toss stuff with bad caps that they don't want to fix...
    Would be nice but I don't know how effective it will be.

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    • ratdude747
      Black Sheep
      • Nov 2008
      • 17136
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      #182
      Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

      I still have the 9800 but I don't have a cooler for it; my only aftermarket one got put into use and the stock one got tossed in the AL scrap bin. If you want it to play with, PM me (I think I also owe you a 6600GT AGP).

      I don't have the other GPU that was toast in usable condition; I scuttled it for parts Already.
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      • RJARRRPCGP
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jul 2004
        • 6301
        • USA

        #183
        Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

        Originally posted by ratdude747






        I would have bought it... Curses! Another good piece of hardware gone bye-bye.

        My worker was about to get P-ed at me, because I have lots of PC stuff that I haven't been using, so I just chucked it.

        I have gotten accused of hoarding before, lol.
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        "Today's lesson in pissivity comes in the form of a ziplock baggie full of GPU extension brackets & hardware that for the last ~3 years have been on my bench, always in my way, getting moved around constantly....and yesterday I found myself in need of them....and the bastards are now nowhere to be found! Motherfracker!!" -Topcat

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        • shovenose
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          • Aug 2010
          • 6575
          • USA

          #184
          Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

          Originally posted by ratdude747
          I still have the 9800 but I don't have a cooler for it; my only aftermarket one got put into use and the stock one got tossed in the AL scrap bin. If you want it to play with, PM me (I think I also owe you a 6600GT AGP).

          I don't have the other GPU that was toast in usable condition; I scuttled it for parts Already.
          You need a 6600GT AGP?
          I has

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          • ratdude747
            Black Sheep
            • Nov 2008
            • 17136
            • USA

            #185
            Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

            Originally posted by shovenose
            You need a 6600GT AGP?
            I has
            No, I have one with a dead (and desoldered) DVI port that was supposed to go in my main rig until the DVI port was hosed due to a blown SMD micro choke. I tried to fix it, to no avail... so I desoldered the plug and covered the bracket hole with Aluminum tape.

            How much RAM does your 6600 have? If another card I may be getting for topcat doesn't work out, I may have a use.
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            • shovenose
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              • Aug 2010
              • 6575
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              #186
              Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

              128MB
              It's got a DVI port and a VGA port.

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              • ratdude747
                Black Sheep
                • Nov 2008
                • 17136
                • USA

                #187
                Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

                Originally posted by shovenose
                128MB
                It's got a DVI port and a VGA port.
                Meh, 128MB is a bit skimpy for running a dualie setup. Hang on to the card though, APG cards 6 and up are somewhat hard to come by and also happen to have very good linux support from nvidia (5 and below, not so much).
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                • ratdude747
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                  • Nov 2008
                  • 17136
                  • USA

                  #188
                  Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

                  Last minute addition:

                  http://www.ebay.com/itm/321049006379

                  Snared for $30,w/o cables (or so my accepted offer stated).

                  After consulting with topcat (who knows far more about 3ware cards than I do), I found out the existing 3ware card is half-useless w/o the BBU. As it turns out, a BBU (not just the battery but the battery controller too) is $110 by itself... Not only do I get a BBU, I also get a spare card too!

                  I'll probably install the 12 port card... Less fussing and better cable routing that way (ports 9-12 are further back and may help eliminate loopy cables). Not to mention that IIRC PCBONEZ once mentioned that the 4 port ones are worth more (since they are low profile).

                  It has a projected arrival time of this coming tuesday... Hopefully my drives and cables come by then.

                  EDIT: Good thing I bought a fresh card... the bastards omitted the BBU connector on my Card! The PCB pads are there but the female header is gone. Must be a dell poweredge thing... Damn idiots...
                  Last edited by ratdude747; 01-02-2013, 04:01 PM.
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                  • ratdude747
                    Black Sheep
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 17136
                    • USA

                    #189
                    Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

                    Due to the new RAID card, I now have a clearance issue with the front audio header.

                    Solution:



                    I ended up having to cannibalize another Firewire card for the connector. Not optimal, but the card I stole from had a smashed up bracket anyway. In addition, since the key pin is on the opposite side of the pin block, I had to omit a pin. I ended up omitting the pin opposite the key, which is a 5V supply pin not used by my case.

                    The soldering didn't go too well either... thanks the the piss poor PCB of the sound card, it didn't like the removal of the old pin block too well. Luckily, after some careful rework, I got it in... and after testing with a live DVD, I can say the new connector is functional.

                    Why the bastards at chaintech didn't use a right angle plug in the first place is beyond me; they used right angle plugs for the CD in and Aux headers...

                    If I have issues down the road, I may end up having to go to an ASUS sound card, since those are the only other cards with AC97 headers that I know of.
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                    • RJARRRPCGP
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                      • Jul 2004
                      • 6301
                      • USA

                      #190
                      Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

                      Originally posted by ratdude747

                      turns out that the DVD portion on the IDE drive is hosed... I am disappointed a bit, since I bought the drive NOS about 4 or so years ago (its a lite-on, my first lite-on to die).
                      I had crap luck with a LiteOn, too. My LiteOn CD-RW drive, model SOHR-5239V randomly stops responding in middle of the installer reading the CD and randomly get file errors. More likely when the room is less than 70 F!

                      Caused installation to fail randomly and at different spots.

                      Most recently, the LiteOn resulted in me coming back to the screen to see:

                      Code:
                      Setup cannot copy the file: town.mid
                      Last edited by RJARRRPCGP; 01-02-2013, 07:26 PM.
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                      "¡Me encanta "Me Encanta o Enlistarlo con Hilary Farr!" -Mí mismo

                      "There's nothing more unattractive than a chick smoking a cigarette" -Topcat

                      "Today's lesson in pissivity comes in the form of a ziplock baggie full of GPU extension brackets & hardware that for the last ~3 years have been on my bench, always in my way, getting moved around constantly....and yesterday I found myself in need of them....and the bastards are now nowhere to be found! Motherfracker!!" -Topcat

                      "did I see a chair fly? I think I did! Time for popcorn!" -ratdude747

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                      • ratdude747
                        Black Sheep
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 17136
                        • USA

                        #191
                        Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

                        Originally posted by RJARRRPCGP
                        I had crap luck with a LiteOn, too. My LiteOn CD-RW drive, model SOHR-5239V randomly stops responding in middle of the installer reading the CD and randomly get file errors. More likely when the room is less than 70 F!

                        Caused installation to fail randomly and at different spots.

                        Most recently, the LiteOn resulted in me coming back to the screen to see:

                        Code:
                        Setup cannot copy the file: town.mid
                        Both drives currently installed are lite-on... other than that one drive, my luck with lite-on has been exellent.
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                        • c_hegge
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                          • Sep 2009
                          • 5219
                          • Australia

                          #192
                          Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

                          I haven't had any major problems with any brand of optical drive, except for LiteOff. Samsung, LC, Sony, and Pioneer have all been fine. I've had the odd one die from all of those brands, but I do see a few more failed LiteOffs than the others.
                          I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                          No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                          Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                          Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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                          • RJARRRPCGP
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                            • Jul 2004
                            • 6301
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                            #193
                            Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

                            Originally posted by c_hegge
                            I haven't had any major problems with any brand of optical drive, except for LiteOff.
                            It does seem to be flaky. IIRC, with the above mentioned error, I did find it unresponsive. This is the most finicky drive I recall, it seems to randomly stop responding when the room temp is less than around 70 F!

                            Opened it up and couldn't find visibly bad caps. It's been sitting around for months now.
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                            Alienware AW3423DWF OLED




                            "¡Me encanta "Me Encanta o Enlistarlo con Hilary Farr!" -Mí mismo

                            "There's nothing more unattractive than a chick smoking a cigarette" -Topcat

                            "Today's lesson in pissivity comes in the form of a ziplock baggie full of GPU extension brackets & hardware that for the last ~3 years have been on my bench, always in my way, getting moved around constantly....and yesterday I found myself in need of them....and the bastards are now nowhere to be found! Motherfracker!!" -Topcat

                            "did I see a chair fly? I think I did! Time for popcorn!" -ratdude747

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                            • lti
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                              • May 2011
                              • 2545
                              • United States

                              #194
                              Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

                              I have had two Lite-On drives. One was an LTN-301 that went nuts. When I tried to open the tray, it flashed the activity LED for a long time, then opened the tray halfway and suddenly closed it. When I managed to get a disc in it, the motor sounded like a chainsaw and it wouldn't read the disc. I recapped it and it worked until the laser died. The other drive was in a crappy DVD recorder. It won't burn a disc anymore, but it still reads discs. It also won't close on its own. I have to push the tray in.

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                              • ratdude747
                                Black Sheep
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 17136
                                • USA

                                #195
                                Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

                                Originally posted by ratdude747
                                Due to the new RAID card, I now have a clearance issue with the front audio header.

                                Solution:



                                I ended up having to cannibalize another Firewire card for the connector. Not optimal, but the card I stole from had a smashed up bracket anyway. In addition, since the key pin is on the opposite side of the pin block, I had to omit a pin. I ended up omitting the pin opposite the key, which is a 5V supply pin not used by my case.

                                The soldering didn't go too well either... thanks the the piss poor PCB of the sound card, it didn't like the removal of the old pin block too well. Luckily, after some careful rework, I got it in... and after testing with a live DVD, I can say the new connector is functional.

                                Why the bastards at chaintech didn't use a right angle plug in the first place is beyond me; they used right angle plugs for the CD in and Aux headers...

                                If I have issues down the road, I may end up having to go to an ASUS sound card, since those are the only other cards with AC97 headers that I know of.


                                After further review of the 3ware 9500 Manual, I didn't actually need to mod the sound card. The 3ware card only will run at 66MHz, so it wouldn't have mattered whether I used the upper 100MHz slot or the lower 66MHz slot. All I would have needed to do was move the card to the lower slot.

                                In the mean time... I bidded on an ASUS Xonar DG card... Knowing my luck I'll get sniped on it... but given the uncertian linux compatibility, I didn't feel like risking a lot.
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                                • ratdude747
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                                  • Nov 2008
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                                  #196
                                  Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

                                  No dice on the Xonar DG card. I got sniped by a auto-bid bot in the last 30 seconds.

                                  Btw, I hate auto-bid bots!

                                  I subitted an offer on a Creative Sound Blaster X-fi with a HD header... Knowing my luck it's HD only (no support for a AC97 header missing the port sense lines)... But I lowballed my offer, so I'll probably ahve to keep the card i have and pray it lasts.
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                                  • ratdude747
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                                    • Nov 2008
                                    • 17136
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                                    #197
                                    Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

                                    The card came in... and It appears to have had the crap kicked out of it:

                                    (BBU removed)







                                    At least one of the 3 main activity LEDs is intact. I wish th upper one was intact but, it ain't

                                    Also, I'm dubious of the RAM module:




                                    Supposedly it's an 128mb like the one from the old card... just to be safe, I swapped the modules.

                                    Somehow the dumbass got the Card bracket on wrong... so when I went to install it, it didn't line up. How one could do that and not notice is beyond me.

                                    I haven't had a chance to test since my keyboard is on the rag (shouldn't have cleaned it, now it complains about a stuck key) and I had to grab lunch and head back to class.
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                                    • momaka
                                      master hoarder
                                      • May 2008
                                      • 12164
                                      • Bulgaria

                                      #198
                                      Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

                                      Ouch. I hate it when sellers don't treat the stuff they are selling well. I suggest you inspect all SMD components on the board carefully. Hopefully, none got chipped.

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                                      • ratdude747
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                                        • Nov 2008
                                        • 17136
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                                        #199
                                        Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

                                        Originally posted by momaka
                                        Ouch. I hate it when sellers don't treat the stuff they are selling well. I suggest you inspect all SMD components on the board carefully. Hopefully, none got chipped.
                                        I looked hard... and no other damage other than the pins (the board is 100% SMD, even the pin headers).

                                        Booted the existing HDD just fine, so I finally retired the 320gb from this system and moved it to it's new home in my supersized HTPC.

                                        I'm Currently running a battery test (not 100% accurate, I didn't get the battery fully charged).
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                                        • ratdude747
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                                          #200
                                          Re: Ratdude's Main rig V2

                                          It said I had 225 Hrs of backup.

                                          Now that the batt is fully charged, I'm redoing the test... but so far the battery looks to be OK.
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