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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

    1) Check the DC V between VCC and GND.
    2) Check the DCV between OUT and GND to see if it varies when you send the remote signal from the remote control, you should at least see the Voltage changes when you activate the remote control.
    BTW, is there an IR Input port on the back of the TV?
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    • vikivng
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Feb 2019
      • 216
      • uk

      #22
      Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

      Originally posted by budm
      1) Check the DC V between VCC and GND.
      2) Check the DCV between OUT and GND to see if it varies when you send the remote signal from the remote control, you should at least see the Voltage changes when you activate the remote control.
      BTW, is there an IR Input port on the back of the TV?
      Thnx,
      I dont see an IR port on the tv .
      Would the USB port work for this.?
      Checking those voltages now.

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      • vikivng
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Feb 2019
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        #23
        Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

        Originally posted by budm
        1) Check the DC V between VCC and GND.
        2) Check the DCV between OUT and GND to see if it varies when you send the remote signal from the remote control, you should at least see the Voltage changes when you activate the remote control.
        BTW, is there an IR Input port on the back of the TV?
        VCC and GND =3.2v unchanged when remote button pressed.
        OUT and GND =0V also unchanged.
        Does this mean IR module is bad.?

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        • vikivng
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Feb 2019
          • 216
          • uk

          #24
          Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

          Originally posted by nomoresonys
          Thnx,
          Can these not be repaired ?
          If the problem is the actual IR 4 leg chip.?
          Can that not be changed.?

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          • nomoresonys
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jan 2013
            • 12081
            • U.S.

            #25
            Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

            Yep, can usually fix them, the little sensor can be replaced, sometimes one or more of the little MLCC ceramic capacitors need replaced, that's IF the module is the issue. At 10 bucks or less, people usually just grab one from ebay or someplace, I would try to fix it if I was doing it for myself, just for the hobby aspect of it.
            Last edited by nomoresonys; 06-23-2020, 05:22 AM.

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            • vikivng
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Feb 2019
              • 216
              • uk

              #26
              Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

              Originally posted by nomoresonys
              Yep, can usually fix them, the little sensor can be replaced, sometimes one or more of the little MLCC ceramic capacitors need replaced, that's IF the module is the issue. At 10 bucks or less, people usually just grab one from ebay or someplace, I would try to fix it if I was doing it for myself, just for the hobby aspect of it.
              Based on the static voltage results in the test suggested by budm, would you say the sensor is the issue.?
              I have seen alot of 3 pin ir sensors but not the 4 pin types.Would these need to be salvaged.?
              Last edited by vikivng; 06-23-2020, 05:56 AM.

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              • nomoresonys
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jan 2013
                • 12081
                • U.S.

                #27
                Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                I think IF you have voltage change when you engage the remote, then your little IR sensor is ok, as he states in the video.
                Last edited by nomoresonys; 06-23-2020, 05:37 AM.

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                • vikivng
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Feb 2019
                  • 216
                  • uk

                  #28
                  Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                  Originally posted by nomoresonys
                  I think IF you have voltage change when you engage the remote, then your little IR sensor is ok, as he states in the video.
                  Hi yes,
                  so im thinking since the voltages do NOT change at all,then this specifically suggests the ir chip is faulty at least.?

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                  • nomoresonys
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 12081
                    • U.S.

                    #29
                    Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                    I think so, seems that they go bad first.

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                    • vikivng
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Feb 2019
                      • 216
                      • uk

                      #30
                      Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                      Is it possible to solder in one of these just to test ?
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                      • diif
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 6978
                        • England

                        #31
                        Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                        Originally posted by vikivng
                        Is it possible to solder in one of these just to test ?
                        I don't see why not.

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                          Check the resistance between IR Out and GND with board connected and not connected.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • vikivng
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Feb 2019
                            • 216
                            • uk

                            #33
                            Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                            Originally posted by budm
                            Check the resistance between IR Out and GND with board connected and not connected.
                            Hi budm
                            connected= 000.4
                            not connected=144kΩ

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                            • vikivng
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Feb 2019
                              • 216
                              • uk

                              #34
                              Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                              Thnx
                              Last edited by vikivng; 06-23-2020, 03:51 PM. Reason: none

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #35
                                Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                                Originally posted by vikivng
                                Hi budm
                                connected= 000.4
                                not connected=144kΩ
                                That is bad, it has shorts circuit on the main board.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • vikivng
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Feb 2019
                                  • 216
                                  • uk

                                  #36
                                  Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  That is bad, it has shorts circuit on the main board.
                                  Ok,
                                  Any obvious areas to check?

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                                  • vikivng
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Feb 2019
                                    • 216
                                    • uk

                                    #37
                                    Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                                    Everything else seems to work so may be worth trying to fix with general guidance.?
                                    Possible.?

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                                      Need to find the schematic of the main board for your TV, so far I cannot find service manual for your TV model.
                                      You can trace out the IR out pin on the main board to see where it goes to, it can be as simple as shorted MLCC.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                                        Can we see good clear pictures of the whole back side of the TV showing all the board?
                                        Also good clear straight shot of the whole main board top and bottom side and also closed up around the connector that goes to the IR Receiver module K board TNPA6010.
                                        BTW the IR receiver module pin 2 is the IR out, need to verify if it is also pin 2 on the main board goes to pin 2 of the IR receiver board.
                                        Last edited by budm; 06-23-2020, 04:47 PM.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                        Comment

                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: Panasonic tx47as650b no reaction to remote.

                                          BTW, just to be sure, the resistance testing is done without TV plugging into the AC outlet, correct?
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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