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  • jasonr2000
    Advance Tech
    • Nov 2013
    • 209
    • UK

    #1

    Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

    Hi guys I have the above TV and all of a sudden the picture has gone what appears to be a negative image

    I get the same issue no matter what input I select
    And also get it on a normal black screen it shows as very bright white

    Could it be a fualty t-con board as all was fine until yesterday


    Any help is appreciated

    I will post pictures if need be as well

    Thanks
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  • jasonr2000
    Advance Tech
    • Nov 2013
    • 209
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

    Here is an image of the problem guys
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    • jasonr2000
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      • Nov 2013
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      #3
      Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

      One more update guys the as15-f chip on the lvds / tcon board gets way too hot to the touch if u touch it when the panel is on it burns u it has got heat pads on there does that mean its a bad tcon ??
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      • jasonr2000
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        • Nov 2013
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        #4
        Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

        Anybody have any advice ??
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        • habanerocat
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 96
          • Ireland

          #5
          Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

          Try some freezer spray on the hot chip and see what happens. It might just verify the faulty board.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

            Originally posted by jasonr2000
            One more update guys the as15-f chip on the lvds / tcon board gets way too hot to the touch if u touch it when the panel is on it burns u it has got heat pads on there does that mean its a bad tcon ??
            Yes, bad AS15.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • jasonr2000
              Advance Tech
              • Nov 2013
              • 209
              • UK

              #7
              Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

              Thanks guys will source a replacement tcon and update with my findings

              One more thing could the faulty chip be replaced if it comes as easier to source ?
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              • zomi
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Nov 2011
                • 505

                #8
                Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

                If you are able to solder.
                Replace just the chip they are £3- £5 off ebay

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                • Alastair E
                  Chief Womble
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 1963
                  • U.K.

                  #9
                  Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

                  Aye--AS-15 chip--Yet Another casualty!

                  Such a common fault can give all sorts of brightness/neg image/colour distortions and used on a wide range of LCD/LED T-Con boards.....

                  Ive started buying the things in bulk!
                  TELEFIX

                  How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                  http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                  PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                  • jasonr2000
                    Advance Tech
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 209
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

                    Hi thanks for the reply I have no issues soldering

                    So I'll get the chip and see how I go

                    But will also source a replacement tcon just in case it goes wrong

                    Thanks guys
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                    • jasonr2000
                      Advance Tech
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 209
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

                      Is there anyway I can prevent this from happening again ?
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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

                        Originally posted by jasonr2000
                        Is there anyway I can prevent this from happening again ?
                        Nothing that we know of, it is one of the reason I do not get used board since we do not know when the IC (if it is not already replaced) will last.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • Alastair E
                          Chief Womble
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1963
                          • U.K.

                          #13
                          Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

                          Well--Not really, Its just a fairly hard driven part and has a finite lifespan.

                          You can try applying a silicone heat-pad (Dead-Toad) to conduct the heat from the chip to the steel T-Con tinwork cover, but I suspect its not actually a dissipation effect, more a cycling effect breaking down the (Lead-Free RoHS Crap) solder between the chip die and the package case, leading to local on-chip overheats on a microscopic level and failures....

                          --Its probably a few years old currently,--so if it gives you another 2-3 years, summit else will die and kill the set anyway!
                          Last edited by Alastair E; 03-11-2015, 10:23 AM.
                          TELEFIX

                          How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                          http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                          PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                          • jasonr2000
                            Advance Tech
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 209
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

                            Thanks both for the replies it already had some heatpad on there and it connects to the chassis as the TV is old now if I can get 2 years out of it then that's OK I'll replace the TV before then


                            The board I've been able to find is a refurbed board from emos

                            So will try that as a backup if my solder skills don't save the current board
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                            • jasonr2000
                              Advance Tech
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 209
                              • UK

                              #15
                              Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

                              An update for u guys new tcon came today resolved the problem almost but the picture is darker than normal

                              Any ideas how I solve this ?
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                              • Alastair E
                                Chief Womble
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 1963
                                • U.K.

                                #16
                                Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

                                Originally posted by jasonr2000
                                An update for u guys new tcon came today resolved the problem almost but the picture is darker than normal

                                Any ideas how I solve this ?
                                Well---

                                Its Probably the replacement T-Con's AS-15! I had a Philips 40" not so long ago that had a darkish but otherwise fine picture--AS-15 was the problem!

                                Worth checking the 20 odd ref voltages marked, Vgama1 to 20 odd.

                                They should form a slowly climbing value, each one a bit more than the last....

                                If you around Swansea--I have a spare AS-15.....
                                TELEFIX

                                How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                                http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                                PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                                • Arfi
                                  New Member
                                  • Mar 2015
                                  • 4
                                  • United kingdom

                                  #17
                                  Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

                                  1- is the T con from exact panel type T420**** rev *** including rev number? ?

                                  2- Is the LVDS lead inserted correctly in t

                                  3-have you updated the firmware to the latest?
                                  (you can check by pressing 123654 on your remote control and confirm version)

                                  4-have you done factory reset into the factory mode ?

                                  if you done all this 4 d look at possible faulty T con again if your tv was working fine prior to T con going faulty

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                                  • jasonr2000
                                    Advance Tech
                                    • Nov 2013
                                    • 209
                                    • UK

                                    #18
                                    Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

                                    Thanks both for the reply

                                    I'll contact emos TV repairs as the replacement tcon is from them

                                    I've got my original tcon still and an as15-f chip that I purchased new

                                    But when I saw how small the pins was I decided soldering it on wasn't for me way beyond my skill

                                    Ive gone in to service mode and based on what the service manual states my option code is also wrong

                                    But I don't see my option codes on the TV anywhere so should I leave them alone ? And get emos to issue another tcon ?
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                                    • jasonr2000
                                      Advance Tech
                                      • Nov 2013
                                      • 209
                                      • UK

                                      #19
                                      Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

                                      And yeah tcon was identical in all ways part number and so forth

                                      Did a software update and factory reset
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                                      • jasonr2000
                                        Advance Tech
                                        • Nov 2013
                                        • 209
                                        • UK

                                        #20
                                        Re: Philips 42PFL7603D/10 image problems

                                        Here are some pics of how the image looks guys

                                        I've also noticed there is some image retention also

                                        But it does go away

                                        And I'm near aberdare so not as close to swansea
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