Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

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  • NihonNoir
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    • Jan 2014
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    #301
    Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

    Bump.

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
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      #302
      Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

      Doh. It's a 1N4148 type part.
      I will try to trace the circuit.
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      • NihonNoir
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        #303
        Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

        If you need more pictures, just let me know. Thanks!

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        • tom66
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          #304
          Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

          Pics are good now. Trying to understand circuit. Can you check on continuity or 2000 ohms from NEGATIVE lead of C905 to NEGATIVE of big 450V capacitor?
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          • NihonNoir
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            #305
            Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

            I get ~001.

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            • tom66
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              #306
              Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

              OK, so that is grounded.
              Can you see a part # on Q901?
              When you test D903, and got ~600, which side was positive, which side was negative? Can you highlight those?
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              • NihonNoir
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                #307
                Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                I'll try to read Q901.
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                • tom66
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                  #308
                  Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                  The circuit is starting to make some sense... I think Q901 is a PNP transistor.
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                  • NihonNoir
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                    #309
                    Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                    I'm amazed that you can make anything out of this.

                    Hopefully I'm looking at the right Q901 - it looks like 2T with a another 2 turned clockwise.

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                    • tom66
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                      #310
                      Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                      Think that's a PMBT4403. I'll try to trace the schematic out soon. That transistor might be bad. Looks like this surge/failure did some pretty nasty damage but with very little marks left behind.
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                      • NihonNoir
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                        #311
                        Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                        Thought I'd check to see if there's anything else needed while I'm snowed in with nothing better to do.

                        I tend to keep all of my high-end electronics plugged into surge protectors . . . I'm curious if doing so could prevent something like this, or are surge protectors just a waste of money?

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                        • tom66
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                          #312
                          Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                          Surge protectors do very little unfortunately. They can help in some cases, so are probably worth having, but in most cases they don't do enough.
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                          • tom66
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                            #313
                            Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                            Traced the circuit.
                            Attached Files
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                            • tom66
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                              #314
                              Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                              Please test voltage across primary side of IC602, in standby and powered on.
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                              • NihonNoir
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                                #315
                                Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                                That's pretty amazing, Tom.

                                Do you mean test the 2 pins that are on the hot side of the board? If so, how do I do that?
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                                • tom66
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                                  #316
                                  Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                                  Yep - just check the voltage across them.
                                  If the voltage goes from HIGH to LOW (figures will vary) the opto is working and that transistor is not, for some reason; if the voltage does not change, need to look at the opto and/or the circuit controlling it.
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                                  • NihonNoir
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                                    #317
                                    Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                                    So red lead on one pin and black lead on the other. Does it matter which is which?

                                    Meter on DCV 20v?

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                                    • tom66
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                                      #318
                                      Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                                      DC20V. Orientation unimportant for now
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                                      • NihonNoir
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                                        #319
                                        Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                                        Got 0 for standby and power.

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                                        • tom66
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                                          #320
                                          Re: Sanyo DP42849 - No Power At All

                                          Hmm, what do you measure on the other side of the device? COLD side only?
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