Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

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  • Mr_K
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 106

    #101
    Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

    In case i have not its a Philips 42PFL4007H/12

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #102
      Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

      I cannot find any schematic.
      Dodgy Chinese seller has it for £32: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=15108857560 (maybe?)
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • Mr_K
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 106

        #103
        Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

        Me neither....
        This board has different (more) components on it. Like i mentioned at the beginning of this thread.
        And i don´t like to order this from china.....

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        • Mr_K
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 106

          #104
          Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

          Originally posted by selldoor
          Did you mean the samsung or the Phillips. I was thinking of the phillips one. Tom and Bud were probably your best bet skimming through checking all the remaining big components
          would seem to be all that is left. You tetsted some of the the fusible resistors but did you check them all?
          Will check them again. It´s been a long time since i had a look at it. Mostly because i (or the PSU) fried the little IC again and i had to order new ones. Maybe that is a hint?
          What do you think about the SMD stuff on the bottom side. Thats a lot! to check....

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          • selldoor
            Slow Learner
            • Dec 2010
            • 7870

            #105
            Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

            Yes- that why I said large components. Unless they have changed colour considerably
            its a matter of testing every one for short than removing and re-testing - needle in a haystack job.
            Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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            • Mr_K
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 106

              #106
              Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

              Yeah. But i´ll have to fix it since there is absolutely no suitable replacement PSU to find....
              Will have a look at it now and report back asap....

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              • Mr_K
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 106

                #107
                Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                So far i´ve checked every fusible resistors and diodes on the front side. I´ve also tried to power the board with external 5.2V. 5.2V->100R->PS-On With no success. Does this mean the fault is definetly in the 12V/24V section?

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                • Mr_K
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 106

                  #108
                  Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                  Hey its me again with another approach ;-)
                  I have finally found some scematics of the PSU. This one is from a benq with different names/numbers on the parts and even some different parts but the cirquit is pretty much the same. Especially in the standby section....
                  Anyway, this makes me belive that i need to have 5v standby instead of 3v(like its in my case)
                  HV input is present. There are no 5v between pin 2 and 4 on coil T2.....even with those pins lifted up. Maybe one of you experts can have a look at the scematics and give me a hint where to look?
                  Wille post more pics if requested.
                  Thanks in advance

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                  • Mr_K
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 106

                    #109
                    Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                    Ok, i have found the correct schematics!!!!

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #110
                      Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                      Great!
                      If you only get 3V instead of 5.2V, places to check are:
                      - caps C9340, C9341
                      - inductor L9304 (should be short circuit)
                      - IC AZ432
                      - Optocouplers

                      However, I do notice, there is a Q9301, which when turned on, will reduce the output voltage. This is controlled by a pin, DV5. High on here indicates lower output voltage.
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #111
                        Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                        Do you get the link to work to get the sch? I could not.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • retiredcaps
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 9271

                          #112
                          Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                          @budm, attached (as per post #109)
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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #113
                            Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                            Thanks retiredcaps, I will study it.
                            I get this message when I click on the link:
                            "Oops! Internet Explorer could not connect to www.iernut.bugs3.com"
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
                              • UK

                              #114
                              Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                              Have you tried using Firefox or Chrome?
                              I can upload it to tgohome.com. Los Angeles server should be fast for you .
                              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #115
                                Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                                The SCH shows Q9301, R9339, R9341, R9340 as NC (NOT CONNECTED/NOT USED).
                                Check ZD9303, OPTO IC9303, REF DIODE IC9304 as Tom suggested.
                                The more PIN4 (FB) switng toward ground (less voltage), the less output voltage you will get. Check voltage between pin2 and 3 of ref diode IC9304.
                                When the output voltage tries to go up, the Opto will turn on more to keep the FB pin low.
                                Last edited by budm; 05-09-2013, 02:04 PM.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • Mr_K
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Apr 2011
                                  • 106

                                  #116
                                  Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                                  Originally posted by tom66
                                  Great!
                                  If you only get 3V instead of 5.2V, places to check are:
                                  - caps C9340, C9341
                                  - inductor L9304 (should be short circuit)
                                  - IC AZ432
                                  - Optocouplers

                                  However, I do notice, there is a Q9301, which when turned on, will reduce the output voltage. This is controlled by a pin, DV5. High on here indicates lower output voltage.
                                  The caps and the inductor are fine. We checked IC AZ432 before (Post #93).

                                  Is there a way to check the optocoplers?

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                                  • tom66
                                    EVs Rule
                                    • Apr 2011
                                    • 32560
                                    • UK

                                    #117
                                    Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                                    Just because it's not connected on that model doesn't mean this board doesn't use it...
                                    Opto test requires two meters with diode test. One meter on one side measuring opto diode drop and providing test current. Other device to measure output current.
                                    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #118
                                      Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                                      He needs to see if those parts are installed on the board or not then to help reduce confusion.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • Mr_K
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 106

                                        #119
                                        Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                                        Originally posted by tom66
                                        Just because it's not connected on that model doesn't mean this board doesn't use it...
                                        .
                                        They are not populated......

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                                        • retiredcaps
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Apr 2010
                                          • 9271

                                          #120
                                          Re: Faulty Philips PSU (715g5246-p01-000-002s )

                                          Originally posted by budm
                                          "Oops! Internet Explorer could not connect to www.iernut.bugs3.com"
                                          Though I rarely use IE 8 now, it works fine for me.

                                          I used Opera 12.15 to download and re-upload pdf.
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