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  • Wester547
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    • Nov 2011
    • 1268
    • USA.

    #1141
    Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

    Originally posted by c_hegge
    On a somewhat related note, I had a bit of a disaster come in at work today in the form of a Dell Inspiron (530s IIRC). It was a TFX form factor, and it had the stock Dell PSU (OEM'd by Lite-on). After not being used for about 18 months, they plugged it in, attempted to turn it on and, kaboom! It blew up, threw the circuit breaker, and took the motherboard and HDD out with it. I didn't get any photos of it, but the only visible damage was 1 small resistor which had a melted leg.
    So you're saying that the Lite-on didn't have the proper protection circuitry?

    And wow, that Raidmax... nice, fresh, and BBQ'd.

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    • Uranium-235
      Comrade Glimmer
      • Aug 2007
      • 5042
      • US

      #1142
      Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

      Hmm, I have a new Antec Basiq 350 I was never able to return to back to frys.

      I don't mind capxon on some PSU's. I've seen them on plenty of working PSU's that are old

      Basiq probably has Capxon too, but hell, this raidmax lasted for 6 years with a worse quality
      Cap Datasheet Depot: http://www.paullinebarger.net/DS/
      ^If you have datasheets not listed PM me

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      • Uranium-235
        Comrade Glimmer
        • Aug 2007
        • 5042
        • US

        #1143
        Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

        I did get a small look inside the basiq, it has some small capxons and medium Taepos
        Cap Datasheet Depot: http://www.paullinebarger.net/DS/
        ^If you have datasheets not listed PM me

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        • momaka
          master hoarder
          • May 2008
          • 12164
          • Bulgaria

          #1144
          Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

          Originally posted by Uranium-235
          I have another RX-380K, in, a SLIGHTLY bit worse condition than yours momaka. I think this perhaps it is a fair bit worse dare I say?
          Indeed.

          Interesting thing is, your RX-380K is not a Sun Pro build like mine was. I frankly didn't think anything could be worse than those KY-480ATX PSUs, but apparently, that's not the case. This one takes the cake over everything terrible I've seen.

          Originally posted by Uranium-235
          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1437463738 (LARGE IMAGE - overview of the main area of damage, coil completely burned, caps obliterated, and I just noticed, one of the cap tops is behind one of the large caps)
          Wow! It's like a 4th of July fireworks show went on in there.

          I wonder what caused it to burn like that. It looks like the main and 3.3V output toroid inductors are okay. Perhaps the fan went and short circuited and started burning? Or a short on primary that somehow didn't blow the fuse? I'm more inclined to think it is the fan. If it was wired straight up to 12V, there will be nothing to stop it from burning if it short circuits. I've seen cheap fans on older MSI and XFX cards literally melt their cases after their driving FETs shorted. Wouldn't be surprised if this is what happened here. Unfortunately, there isn't much left of the fan here to see if that is the case or not. And yeah, I can imagine why no one will want to analyze this PSU. I tried to open up a burnt out SSR once (which had a shorted Triac inside), and man, what a smell that thing let out. I got a stink on my hand that I couldn't wash off for a few days afterwards.
          Last edited by momaka; 07-23-2015, 02:10 AM.

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          • Behemot
            Badcaps Legend
            • Dec 2009
            • 4845
            • CZ

            #1145
            Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

            Originally posted by Uranium-235
            Can I borrow some of those images? Pity the first one is so small and unfocused…
            Less jewellery, more gold into electrotech industry! Half of the computer problems is caused by bad contacts

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            • Dan81
              SNES-powered
              • Oct 2013
              • 1865
              • Romania

              #1146
              Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

              You guys can't get a PSU better than this.
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              • Behemot
                Badcaps Legend
                • Dec 2009
                • 4845
                • CZ

                #1147
                Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                You are wrong mister


                http://www.hardwareinsights.com/wp/p...platinum-unit/
                Less jewellery, more gold into electrotech industry! Half of the computer problems is caused by bad contacts

                Exclusive caps, meters and more!
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                • Uranium-235
                  Comrade Glimmer
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 5042
                  • US

                  #1148
                  Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                  Originally posted by Behemot
                  Can I borrow some of those images? Pity the first one is so small and unfocused…
                  certainly, tell me where you post them. If its in a forum I want to see the reaction.

                  I'll try to take another back photo

                  and yeah, earthwatts tends to be some of the best quality
                  Cap Datasheet Depot: http://www.paullinebarger.net/DS/
                  ^If you have datasheets not listed PM me

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                  • Behemot
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 4845
                    • CZ

                    #1149
                    Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                    To HWI's facetoob page, trying to get some attention there…

                    The Platinums are FSP Aurum 92+, nothing spectacular and those four rails are same crazy shit like five rails of that wonder above…
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                    • Behemot
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 4845
                      • CZ

                      #1150
                      Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                      Here it is https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hardw...12455168767624
                      Less jewellery, more gold into electrotech industry! Half of the computer problems is caused by bad contacts

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                      • coreAngel
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 124
                        • United States

                        #1151
                        Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                        Originally posted this on jonnyguru but this deserves to be here

                        But this one in particular was hard to pass up, i usually peruse craigslist for free computers in my area, and a pentium 4 custom built PC popped up.
                        I arranged the date and i went and picked it up he said it ran fine since his son who built computers (and was an expert) built one for him.

                        I took it home and the first thing i took a gander at was the PSU, and guess what i found a Deer PSU 250 watt max on a P4 system i was like oh deer, pun intended.How bad was this going to be and i found my favorite caps to make fun of Rulycons!!!.And most were popped, the main caps were VIVA which were leaking in the bottom

                        What i still wonder is how could th is have supported the system with 256mb RIMM's a video card,adaptec scsi card,modem,sound and a pentium 4 1.4ghz processor two cd drives and 2 hdd's which were removed. It was a 15 yr old PSU and it actually started i actually hid under a table when i turned it on..any thoughts if this is the worst psu of the millenium
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                        Yes i love Nichicon MUSE Audio Capacitors...they would look awesome all over any motherboard

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                        • momaka
                          master hoarder
                          • May 2008
                          • 12164
                          • Bulgaria

                          #1152
                          Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                          Originally posted by coreAngel
                          I took it home and the first thing i took a gander at was the PSU, and guess what i found a Deer PSU 250 watt max on a P4 system i was like oh deer, pun intended.How bad was this going to be and i found my favorite caps to make fun of Rulycons!!!.And most were popped, the main caps were VIVA which were leaking in the bottom
                          We, the people at badcaps.net, love Rulycons!
                          So, thank you for posting .

                          Now, if you are a fan of recursion, then have a look here:
                          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...9&d=1331836529
                          and here:
                          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...0&d=1331835289

                          Basically, your PSU appears to have the same (or very similar) design as the first one I posted above, but with cap choices and heatsinks of the second unit.
                          Full threads below, if you get a kick out of reading longs posts about crappy PSUs :
                          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...&postcount=491
                          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...&postcount=489

                          Originally posted by coreAngel
                          What i still wonder is how could th is have supported the system with 256mb RIMM's a video card,adaptec scsi card,modem,sound and a pentium 4 1.4ghz processor two cd drives and 2 hdd's which were removed. It was a 15 yr old PSU and it actually started i actually hid under a table when i turned it on.

                          Yeah, amazing indeed how such gutless units still continue to run. What's even more amazing is that the PSU you got has a self-oscillating 5VSB circuit without feedback that still works. Those designs usually send the semiconductors in the sky after a few years.

                          I got a PSU similar to yours last summer. Off of Craigslist too, with bulged caps, but still working, so same deal like yours. I just finished posting it here:
                          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...173#post593173

                          Originally posted by coreAngel
                          any thoughts if this is the worst psu of the millenium
                          It's pretty bad, alright. But it could still be worse. Don't believe me? Look back in this thread if you have time. I think you would be pleasantly (or unpleasantly?) surprised .
                          Last edited by momaka; 09-25-2015, 07:53 PM.

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                          • goodpsusearch
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2848
                            • Greece

                            #1153
                            Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                            Any chance this is just glue at the bottom of the primary caps?

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                            • Agent24
                              I see dead caps
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 4921
                              • New Zealand

                              #1154
                              Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                              Originally posted by goodpsusearch
                              Any chance this is just glue at the bottom of the primary caps?
                              Quite possibly...
                              "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                              -David VanHorn

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                              • momaka
                                master hoarder
                                • May 2008
                                • 12164
                                • Bulgaria

                                #1155
                                Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                Originally posted by goodpsusearch
                                Any chance this is just glue at the bottom of the primary caps?
                                Yes, I think so. IIRC, mine had the same glue around the primary caps as well. It's just not visible on the above pictures.

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                                • TELVM
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Oct 2012
                                  • 547
                                  • Spain

                                  #1156
                                  Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                  Originally posted by coreAngel
                                  ... What i still wonder is how could th is have supported the system with 256mb RIMM's a video card,adaptec scsi card,modem,sound and a pentium 4 1.4ghz processor two cd drives and 2 hdd's ...
                                  I keep alive a dinosaur P4P800 with 3.4 HT Preshott OCed to 4 GHz, ATI 9800 Pro GPU, 3MB of RAM in four sticks, SSD, HDD, DVD and no less than 7 fans onboard, and it just draws ~230W DC tops under full torture.

                                  So wattage-wise poor ole 250W Deers were up to the task.

                                  Now, the ripple your components must have been enduring ...

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                                  • coreAngel
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Oct 2014
                                    • 124
                                    • United States

                                    #1157
                                    Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                    Originally posted by momaka
                                    We, the people at badcaps.net, love Rulycons!
                                    So, thank you for posting .

                                    Now, if you are a fan of recursion, then have a look here:
                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...9&d=1331836529
                                    and here:
                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...0&d=1331835289

                                    Basically, your PSU appears to have the same (or very similar) design as the first one I posted above, but with cap choices and heatsinks of the second unit.
                                    Full threads below, if you get a kick out of reading longs posts about crappy PSUs :
                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...&postcount=491
                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...&postcount=489



                                    Yeah, amazing indeed how such gutless units still continue to run. What's even more amazing is that the PSU you got has a self-oscillating 5VSB circuit without feedback that still works. Those designs usually send the semiconductors in the sky after a few years.

                                    I got a PSU similar to yours last summer. Off of Craigslist too, with bulged caps, but still working, so same deal like yours. I just finished posting it here:
                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...173#post593173


                                    It's pretty bad, alright. But it could still be worse. Don't believe me? Look back in this thread if you have time. I think you would be pleasantly (or unpleasantly?) surprised .
                                    This one is not exactly a power supply but it is an Inverter, it's designed to convert 12vdc car battery power to 110 to 130 watt AC power and a USB port for charging...after being on this site, i knew i had to take it apart,because it failed after 1 year, the fan works but the caps look unusual, but the fan seems to not spin correctly (its a yateloon fan)
                                    Attached Files
                                    Yes i love Nichicon MUSE Audio Capacitors...they would look awesome all over any motherboard

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                                    • RJARRRPCGP
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Jul 2004
                                      • 6301
                                      • USA

                                      #1158
                                      Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                      Originally posted by coreAngel

                                      I took it home and the first thing i took a gander at was the PSU, and guess what i found a Deer PSU 250 watt max on a P4 system i was like oh deer, pun intended.
                                      Looks like the Deer I used with my first Athlon! LOL! (T-bird 900 Mhz) (Especially the darkened spots!)
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                                      • Pentium4
                                        CapXon Be Gone
                                        • Sep 2011
                                        • 3741
                                        • USA

                                        #1159
                                        Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                        Shame on you, Solytech...

                                        This thing managed to power a computer for 2 years and never failed. Pretty surprising!
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                                        • TELVM
                                          Badcaps Veteran
                                          • Oct 2012
                                          • 547
                                          • Spain

                                          #1160
                                          Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                          That must be a 'flying transistor' mod, very 'cool'.

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