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  • CATA2003
    Member
    • Dec 2013
    • 11
    • Romania

    #581
    Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

    Originally posted by selldoor
    Which board are they on - are they standard or smd do they have any marking on them
    1. They are on the PSU board (on the feedback chain)
    2. SMD
    3. Don't have them (have been replaced with other value, now I will make it as the original one).

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    • Mark369
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 163

      #582
      Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

      On the control board pw549da3 62c6-1549-1002
      M06 ver5.0a can any one tell me what part number for Q14

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      • Mark369
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 163

        #583
        Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

        I put cable from power suply in upside down and shorted Q14 looks like i put
        12v in to it but is mosfet for power on switch and only need max of 5.x v.

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        • Lumberjack777
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Dec 2010
          • 464

          #584
          Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

          That's part number 9435GM

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          • Mark369
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 163

            #585
            Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

            i seen that on older post but it was on a ver6 board

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            • Mark369
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 163

              #586
              Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

              I dont know if bill is still watching but if you are.
              Could you tell me if the key values that i should be looking at for a replacement, or any one else that knows

              How would i check a voltage regulater for shorts. Sorry about the spelling.:-!

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              • Mark369
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 163

                #587
                Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

                I ordered a new mosfet part number FDS9435ACT-ND from DIGI-KEY i hope it will be a good replacement can any one have a look and tell me if i made the right choice.

                Thanks to all.

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                • Mark369
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 163

                  #588
                  Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

                  Here are some photos
                  Attached Files

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                  • Mark369
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 163

                    #589
                    Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

                    Here are some good ones
                    Attached Files

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                    • CATA2003
                      Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 11
                      • Romania

                      #590
                      Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

                      Another problem strikes, I have replace the psu with an universal one and now the HDMI input is not working, I get a message on the screen that no input is detected an the digital one,but the VGA input is working.

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                      • Mark369
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 163

                        #591
                        Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

                        check voltage reg's on the control board

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                        • Mark369
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 163

                          #592
                          Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

                          I got my screen working now. After replacing the three small caps on the power supply as others did (C603,606 and 707) and replacing that mosfet I burnt. But I think that I need to recap the control board (logic board) and for sure the power supply. The image on the screen when I turn on the computer is shimmering. then it heats up and it look good.

                          I think that it's because some of the caps might be a little out of spec. so when they are cold they have hi ESR.

                          Any comments on this thinking
                          Last edited by Mark369; 03-03-2014, 09:39 PM.

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #593
                            Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

                            So did you replace those two 100uF 16V by the regulators on the main board?
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • Mark369
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 163

                              #594
                              Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

                              I didn't replace any on the main board yet.

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #595
                                Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

                                Those two when bad can cause shimmering/lines on the screen, if you heat them up with hair dryer, the problem may clear up if they are not too far gone.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • Mark369
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jul 2009
                                  • 163

                                  #596
                                  Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

                                  Thanks budm

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                                  • Samsara
                                    New Member
                                    • Mar 2014
                                    • 3
                                    • UK

                                    #597
                                    Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

                                    Hello everyone,

                                    I have a simple question (I think), but a long description. It regards the transformer in this image which is PHIHONG 26002170001, E149666 FIS-B1, 904040-001 0804 RA3, HI-POT.

                                    It's on a PSM217-404-H-R power supply for Hanns G HG281D, hence why I'm posting here. I have very little understanding of electronics and after searching and trying to read through most of this thread I thought it best just to show a picture of what to me looks like the problem.

                                    My screen has deteriorated in the following way over the last year:

                                    - It started to take a while to get it to turn on, taking a few presses of the power button to get the blue "G" on and the screen would come on as normal.

                                    - Those few presses turned into a LOT and I would spend 5-15 minutes pressing the button and it would eventually turn on.

                                    - It became so bad that I would never turn it off with the power button and the screen would go to "sleep" (orange "G" power indicator) while the computer was off.

                                    - The display would randomly disappear for a few seconds during normal use every now and then. This became more and more common.

                                    - More recently, having kept it turned on, after turning off the PC and letting the monitor "sleep" it would die completely. No power light. Nothing.

                                    - After turning on the computer and running it for a few hours the blue power indicator would flicker now and then and eventually, with no prompting other than the signal coming through the HDMI input from the computer, the screen would flicker into life and I'd have full display.

                                    - Now that doesn't even work. Dead monitor.

                                    Basically, does this melted, eroded transformer indicate the fault? Or does it sound like something else. I can provide pictures of different parts if needed.

                                    Apologies if I've missed the answer in previous posts. I don't mind being directed to those answers to save time.

                                    Thanks
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                                    • Lumberjack777
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Dec 2010
                                      • 464

                                      #598
                                      Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

                                      Ok, your symptoms are classic for capacitors going bad. On that power supply normally the small capacitors in the middle dry up. Your picture of the switchmode transformer is interesting. With the melted plastic. I have never seen that before. Normally the brown residue is normal from the manufacturing process. What's important is the windings. I use a ring tester to test those windings.

                                      Maybe somebody has another method for him to test it?

                                      If it turns out the transformer is miraculously good. You need to change the capacitors circled in red on my photo. And it wouldn't hurt to change the ones circled in blue. That's almost always the problem with that power supply.
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                                      • Samsara
                                        New Member
                                        • Mar 2014
                                        • 3
                                        • UK

                                        #599
                                        Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

                                        Originally posted by Lumberjack777
                                        Ok, your symptoms are classic for capacitors going bad. On that power supply normally the small capacitors in the middle dry up. Your picture of the switchmode transformer is interesting. With the melted plastic. I have never seen that before. Normally the brown residue is normal from the manufacturing process. What's important is the windings. I use a ring tester to test those windings.

                                        Maybe somebody has another method for him to test it?

                                        If it turns out the transformer is miraculously good. You need to change the capacitors circled in red on my photo. And it wouldn't hurt to change the ones circled in blue. That's almost always the problem with that power supply.
                                        I've just plugged it all back in after replacing the capacitors you said to replace, and it works! Better than ever in fact. I hope it lasts!

                                        Thank you very much for your advice. You've saved me. I really appreciate it.

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                                        • Lumberjack777
                                          Badcaps Veteran
                                          • Dec 2010
                                          • 464

                                          #600
                                          Re: Hanns-G HG281D, LCD Monitor no power

                                          Great to hear! You're welcome.

                                          If you start getting any video problems like shimmering, color shifting, or fuzziness you'll need to replace the "two 100uF 16V by the regulators on the main board" as budm recommends in post #593. Those are usually the other capacitors that go bad.

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