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  • mblguy
    Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 14
    • Netherlands

    #1

    Miele km5951

    Hey guys,
    I really like to find out how to fix our miele ceramic induction Cooker. Last evening the breakers of the Cooker Group tripped. Because the Device is already 8yrs Old i decided to look at it myself. I opened the unit and found out the PCB has Black burn marks on it.

    So something must have taking too much amps. Then i saw the second thing.

    As you might be able to see, the Blue coil is a little bit molten. Could this mean the coil made a short circuit? And is it possible to fix this?

    Thanks for reading!
    Max
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Miele km5951

    Can we see the straight shot pictures of the whole top and bottom side of the board?
    That copper trace blew up due to over current, probably due to shorted components.
    Never stop learning
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    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • mblguy
      Member
      • Nov 2016
      • 14
      • Netherlands

      #3
      Re: Miele km5951

      Sure.




      Thank you!

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      • CapLeaker
        Leaking Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 7985
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: Miele km5951

        links like that don't work

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        • Per Hansson
          Super Moderator
          • Jul 2005
          • 5895
          • Sweden

          #5
          Re: Miele km5951

          They work just fine for me.
          "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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          • RJARRRPCGP
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jul 2004
            • 6301
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Miele km5951

            Originally posted by Per Hansson
            They work just fine for me.
            vBulletin pretty much tells me that they don't exist!
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            • Per Hansson
              Super Moderator
              • Jul 2005
              • 5895
              • Sweden

              #7
              Re: Miele km5951

              Please post the error message you get.
              "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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              • stj
                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                • Dec 2009
                • 30931
                • Albion

                #8
                Re: Miele km5951

                Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator
                using https

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                • mblguy
                  Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 14
                  • Netherlands

                  #9
                  Re: Miele km5951




                  Okey, weird yesterday all of a sudden the links turned out instead of a thunbnail.

                  The error i got was fe 35

                  Thanks for all the attention guys
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                  • CapLeaker
                    Leaking Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 7985
                    • Canada

                    #10
                    Re: Miele km5951

                    Originally posted by Per Hansson
                    They work just fine for me.
                    Sorry Per, they don't for me!

                    "Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"

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                    • CapLeaker
                      Leaking Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 7985
                      • Canada

                      #11
                      Re: Miele km5951

                      Originally posted by mblguy



                      Okey, weird yesterday all of a sudden the links turned out instead of a thunbnail.

                      The error i got was fe 35

                      Thanks for all the attention guys
                      I see cold solders on the back side of the board.

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                      • redwire
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 3900
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: Miele km5951

                        vBulletin Message
                        Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator
                        Those two links don't work for me either.


                        Blowing a trace and 20A fuses the power semiconductors have obviously failed short circuit. I don't see them in the pics. They are what I would I would test first.

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                        • mblguy
                          Member
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 14
                          • Netherlands

                          #13
                          Re: Miele km5951

                          The fuses were never in there, i already tried with 20A fuses in it but they did not do their job as the kitchen group breakers tripped again.

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                          • CapLeaker
                            Leaking Member
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 7985
                            • Canada

                            #14
                            Re: Miele km5951

                            What is printed on the IC next to R115? Sounds like there is a dead short, if you plug it in an it trips the breaker right away.

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Miele km5951

                              You have another board with hestsink so more likely that is where the power semiconductors are and they may be shorted out. To trip the panel breaker, it has to be some shorted power devices.
                              How about pictures that show every thing?
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • mblguy
                                Member
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 14
                                • Netherlands

                                #16
                                Re: Miele km5951

                                Okey, i forgot to say the breakers dont go immediately after plugging the device in. It powers up fine but once we turn on one heater it all trips again.
                                I cannot take the pictures right now as i am not home atm. But you are right, there are 2 another panels with 4 transistors each,
                                connected to a heatsink. As soon as i get home i Will try to look at it.

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                                • diif
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2014
                                  • 6978
                                  • England

                                  #17
                                  Re: Miele km5951

                                  Sounds like the heating element is blown.

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                                  • mblguy
                                    Member
                                    • Nov 2016
                                    • 14
                                    • Netherlands

                                    #18
                                    Re: Miele km5951

                                    Thats a really good guess, i forgot to check if it is the same with the other heaters. Sadly, i didn't have time today and this week is going to be tough too. I might try to check on it in the end of the week if my parents didn't buy a new one already.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Miele km5951

                                      It is induction coil, not the typical heating element.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • Stefan Payne
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Dec 2009
                                        • 1267
                                        • Germany

                                        #20
                                        Re: Miele km5951

                                        What caps are used?
                                        One of them looks like a Teapo?

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