3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

[trodas]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

IIRC last time I chacked, capacitors are custom free, but it could changed during these days when even bank account robbery is "legally" possible, so...

As far as the GT goes, Joe never really advocated them, also they are too low ripple compared to the Samxon GD 2200uF 16V d10 (2800mA ripple! ) that I used in place of the 3300uF 16V caps in Enermax Liberty 620W recap...

BTW, Nichicon VY 2200uF 16V 1000 Hrs @ 105°C 710mA ripple is a d10 cap. But too general purpose...

[mockingbird]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

As far as the GT goes, Joe never really advocated them, also they are too low ripple compared to the Samxon GD 2200uF 16V d10

These aren't for motherboard VRMs but for PSUs. They're more than adequate for that.

[Behemot]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

IIRC last time I chacked, capacitors are custom free, but it could changed during these days when even bank account robbery is "legally" possible, so...

No customs but VAT. According to my calculations, they'll rob for over 4000 CZK for this package.

[mockingbird]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

It's an obligation for them to lay tariffs on those dirty capitalists any chance they can get.

[Behemot]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

More like on anybody who has anything to be robbed of. They need money to keep runing, right…bloody socialists…

[trodas]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

/OT Since the whole "socialism" was engineered and payed from Wall Street, I would not be exactly blaming any "left" or "right" or "socialism" or "capitalism"... ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD_cJXOjYl8 ) There are just those, who create money and the rest, who are taxed and enslaved by these money ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGk5ioEXlIM ). Artifical divisions on "left" and "right" only serve purpose to better control of the people by the old trick - divide and conquer. Don't fall for that. There is not capitalism. There is no socialism. There is no left or right. There are only The Money Masters and the slaves (me, you and everyone you know).
Any loan for interest is creating perpetual debt, when the money for the interest not entering the system, so in the end, to pay the interest to the bank, somebody alse must get another loan. For another interest, of course. That is why the debt have to skyrocket exponencially ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTBODoBaCns ) and the system is doomed to fail from the very beginning. OT/


mockingbird - Samxon GT caps

These aren't for motherboard VRMs but for PSUs. They're more than adequate for that.

Well, maybe for PSUs for some audio stuff, but IMHO not for mainboards. I would like to see at least about 2200mA ripple for the 16V caps on 12V rail, and the Samxon GT are nowhere near about it.
But GD are 2800mA I just running on them, so I know.


Behemot -

VAT

If the package was send from person to person, no VAT is applicable.

[Behemot]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

/OT OT/

That's for another discussion, but well, you have some flaws in there…socialism came from the east part of the world…you know, the thing before communism and so…

Well, maybe for PSUs for some audio stuff, but IMHO not for mainboards. I would like to see at least about 2200mA ripple for the 16V caps on 12V rail, and the Samxon GT are nowhere near about it.
But GD are 2800mA I just running on them, so I know.

If the package was send from person to person, no VAT is applicable.

I have GT confirmed from Man Yue to have 2,2 A at D10x35 mm.

Haven't ever heard about such thing. Maybe you mean you can falsify the value when sending from person to person, but this goes from Man Yue and I have the shipping ordered through czech courier company. Otherwise, using branded couriers, I would pay more for shiping than for the caps itself, which would be really huge money.

[Behemot]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

Here it is. Final price is to be set at 5,2 CZK a piece for those who have been willing to had a piece of the initiall shipping. Please PM me regarding payment and shipping if you are still interested.

For anybody else, the price is as follows:
CZK 10,4 (< 10 pcs), CZK 9,88 (>= 10 pcs), CZK 9,10 (>=30 pcs), CZK 7,28 (>=100 pcs).

[Behemot]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

Here it is. Final price is to be set at 5,35 CZK a piece for those who have been willing to had a piece of the initiall shipping. Please PM me regarding payment and shipping if you are still interested.

For anybody else, the price is as follows:
CZK 10,70 (< 10 pcs)
CZK 10,17 (>= 10 pcs)
CZK 9,36 (>=30 pcs)
CZK 7,49 (>=100 pcs)

Small adjustement as I have forgotten to count in fee my bank charged me when wiring the money to Man Yue! And certainly I want to pay that from my own pocket

[mockingbird]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

What look like 10mm Chemi-Con (probably KZH or KZE series) spotted in the wild:

[Behemot]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

Cna you find out what exactly that is?

[trodas]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

Sure either special made ones, or fakes.

BTW, it is possible to get a 2200uF 16V d10 Rubycons - either PX or PK, but these are more general usage caps, as their ripple suxx: PX 1050mA and PK 1320mA, but this second one is 85°C only, so... Not good.
http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...128-ND/3134086
http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...118-ND/3134077

Very similar (yet ever worser specs) are VY Nichicons (710mA, laughable) and VK Nichicons (1000mA 85°C):
http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...MPD-ND/2539381
http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...MPD-ND/2404092

[Behemot]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

I think Topcat even offers some in shop.

Anyway, are you back in PSU business, wanna some? Got plenty for sale

[Pentium4]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

Do the 3300uF 16V RS caps have a higher ripple current rating than the 3300uF 10V ones @ 1863 or are they higher?

[Behemot]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

It's 1675, have a look, as been noted by guys here few pages back, for RS line it is given by can size. As you can see in datasheet, ripple does not depending on anything else but can size.

[trodas]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

Except for the electrolyte and internal stuff. For example, a Nichicon HZ cap for 16V with d8 (!) diameter offer 1000uF yet with 2880mA ripple
http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...PM6-ND/1628340

This is, of course, the best electrolyte cap type ever (par to par with Samxon GA) and I'm not sure if it is even good for a PSU. Maybe not. Regardless it do exist. Unlike Panasonic FL caps (MSI PM8M3-V) that seems not even existing...
(This type is not listed at Digi-key.)

[Behemot]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

What?

[Behemot]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

I've established an english version of my stock overview so if you'll be interested in another capacitors as well, you can have a look.

Right now I am in the middle of talks about sourcing the brand new Chemi-Con KYA line. If all goes well, in couple of weeks I will have first samples; I'll take smaller numbers of them to begin with to test my source's credibility. If it is OK, more will follow. Due to Digi-keys jump in price I think I will be price competitive even with large electronic parts suppliers! Not mention especially in Digi-Key the NCC KYA line is not being sold yet! You'll have unique possibility to source basically the KY line but with higher capacity in every size.

[Pentium4]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

^ Awesome That's exciting, keep us updated

[mockingbird]

Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

Right now I am in the middle of talks about sourcing the brand new Chemi-Con KYA line.

I think a specialized 10mm Samxon GT custom order would be a lot more economical than KYA. UCC's prices in North America just aren't as competitive as they are in Asia.

Additionally, a 10mm 16V 3300uF KYA cap would be a custom order (10mm is not listed in their datasheet), and as you have found out, their minimum quantity for custom orders is 1000 IIRC.

I'm fairly impressed with Samxon after your order process with them. It's a typical case where a Chinese company was able to outcompete a Japanese company with an equivalent quality product. You were able to make your custom order directly with them, as opposed to UCC which required you to deal with a middleman (Digikey), and I think might have mentioned that they allowed you to pay through Paypal... Had you done GT and not RS, I would have participated in the group buy.