Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

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  • Davi.p
    Hobbist
    • Sep 2009
    • 4261
    • Italy - Milan

    #121
    Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

    Sorry, you have thermometer not ir cam..

    Check this: https://youtu.be/CVsmwFAkf7I

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    • SoftwareHack
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2020
      • 59
      • United States

      #122
      Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

      I see, I need to heat up the chip to get the solder to flow onto the pads that I can't access directly. I will give that a shot.

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      • Kilroy2k1
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 69

        #123
        Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

        You can take a pair of side cutters, warm the chip up with your soldering iron and try to snip the top off it as if you were trying to decap the chip (removeing the top layer)
        Then with the plastic package mostly broken you should be able to get to and heat the rest of the bits to desolder them.

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        • SoftwareHack
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          • Oct 2020
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          #124
          Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

          I was thinking along the same lines, but my mind went to my Dremel with a cutting wheel...but that's a bit more sketchy on collateral damage...

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          • Davi.p
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            • Sep 2009
            • 4261
            • Italy - Milan

            #125
            Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

            No you.dont.need to warm the chip, you must warm the terminals with a big boob of solder,, you must wait a bit because it there can be a glue under.

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            • nomoresonys
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              • Jan 2013
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              #126
              Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

              A big boob of solder?...ok...Well now it's gettin interesting.

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              • SoftwareHack
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                • Oct 2020
                • 59
                • United States

                #127
                Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

                I found my cheap soldering iron that I bought when I couldn't find my soldering equipment. It had a set of tips, one of which was a angled flat tip. I was able to heat up the chip enough to melt the existing solder and remove the diode array. Then cleaned it up with a wick and alcohol swab. I now have it plugged into a surge protector. This is the result! As an SF Giants fan, never been so happy to see Clayton Kershaw on the mound.

                Thanks to everyone who helped me through each step, and getting me past my presumption that all power cycling issues were the same when I thought that I had isolated the issue to the mainboard.

                My next project is an old Dell Latitude laptop with a dead screen...

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                • nomoresonys
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                  #128
                  Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

                  Yep Kilroy nailed it, another fine save, nice job and good teamwork.

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                  • SoftwareHack
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                    • Oct 2020
                    • 59
                    • United States

                    #129
                    Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

                    Everybody who responded pushed me a little further into diagnosing and fixing the problem. So thanks to all.

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                    • nomoresonys
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                      • Jan 2013
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                      #130
                      Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

                      I wonder if it will be ok down one diode array.

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                      • SoftwareHack
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                        • Oct 2020
                        • 59
                        • United States

                        #131
                        Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

                        My understanding is that it is for ESD protection.

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                        • Kilroy2k1
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 69

                          #132
                          Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

                          Glad you have it sorted now. I posted the datasheet of the diode array so you could replace it if you want.
                          Little tip on these sets, turn the back light down about 15-20%,reduce the brightness and contrast down a few percent. Those 2 resistors that showed the pulsing will thank you.
                          Enjoy.

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                          • Davi.p
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                            • Sep 2009
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                            • Italy - Milan

                            #133
                            Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

                            Sometimes even with those protection diodes the surge reaches the delicate part of screen and nobody can save it, so to.protect it better it was good to replace the diodes.
                            Blob not boob, maybe boob is a tit?

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                            • SoftwareHack
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                              • Oct 2020
                              • 59
                              • United States

                              #134
                              Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

                              I saw that. I'll look at that when I believe that I can install one without messing it up.

                              I'll turn it down a bit when I figure out how to get the remote working again. It powers the TV on and off, but nothing else seems to work at the moment so I'm going to pair it to the TV again and see what happens.

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                              • SoftwareHack
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                                • Oct 2020
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                                #135
                                Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

                                So backlight and brightness were both below 1/2, but contrast was 100%. I dropped contrast down 15%.

                                I'll order the part and look into installing it. Maybe I can practice on a junk board first.

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                                • Davi.p
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                                  • Sep 2009
                                  • 4261
                                  • Italy - Milan

                                  #136
                                  Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

                                  I don't know how an high contrast can ruin a screen...

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                                  • nomoresonys
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                                    • Jan 2013
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                                    #137
                                    Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

                                    Originally posted by Davi.p
                                    Sometimes even with those protection diodes the surge reaches the delicate part of screen and nobody can save it, so to.protect it better it was good to replace the diodes.
                                    Blob not boob, maybe boob is a tit?
                                    Yep, I'd replace it just to be safe and try to protect all the work you just went thru.
                                    Last edited by nomoresonys; 10-21-2020, 09:34 AM.

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                                    • nomoresonys
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                                      #138
                                      Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

                                      Originally posted by SoftwareHack
                                      So backlight and brightness were both below 1/2, but contrast was 100%. I dropped contrast down 15%.

                                      I'll order the part and look into installing it. Maybe I can practice on a junk board first.
                                      I set my un55 backlights on 7, that's as low as I can put up with.

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                                      • Davi.p
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                                        • Sep 2009
                                        • 4261
                                        • Italy - Milan

                                        #139
                                        Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

                                        I hope that some virus takes away some unuseful idiots from this site..
                                        Last edited by Davi.p; 10-21-2020, 10:00 AM.

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                                        • nomoresonys
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                                          #140
                                          Re: Samsung UN55KS800DFXZA Ver. AA02 with the seemingly common power cycling problem

                                          Originally posted by Davi.p
                                          I hope that Corona virus takes away some unuseful idiots from this site..
                                          Boy howdy...ME TOO. SPECIALLY the smartass PUNKS, that are WRONG WAY MORE than they are right...like the ones who thought this was a ccfl lit tv.
                                          Last edited by nomoresonys; 10-21-2020, 10:07 AM.

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