Samsung Power Supply Board BN44-00874F

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  • Nicktronic
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    • Mar 2023
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    #61
    Originally posted by nomoresonys
    Did you replace CM810?
    No, I pulled it and tested it. Was like 93uF (it's 100uf rated). I suppose I could test it with DC supply and put 50VDC on it (it's a 63vdc cap)

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    • nomoresonys
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      • Jan 2013
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      #62
      If you still had it out you could have tested the resistance of the holes it goes in. Guess you can test that with it in there.

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      • nomoresonys
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        #63
        So if it's back in check the resistance and compare it to CM814.

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        • nomoresonys
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          #64
          I noticed you were doing some testing with the board live, can you test the voltage of the collector/source pin of that pfc transistor?
          Last edited by nomoresonys; 03-27-2025, 05:50 PM.

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          • nomoresonys
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            • Jan 2013
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            #65
            So if everything else checks out then the pfc IC must have been damaged, which is likely to to happen in a case like this where that particular shit that blew up on your board and pretty much everything else has been tested. Guess you should look hard at that, thoroughly test it if you can.

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            • nomoresonys
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              #66
              Maybe check youtube, if you look hard enough, you can find some good videos that tell you what to check and what drives what etc. A picture is worth a thousand words and a video is worth a million words imo.

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              • Nicktronic
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                • Mar 2023
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                #67
                Originally posted by nomoresonys
                So if it's back in check the resistance and compare it to CM814.
                4.2kohms in both

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                • Nicktronic
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by nomoresonys
                  I noticed you were doing some testing with the board live, can you test the voltage of the collector/source pin of that pfc transistor?
                  QP801CS (new) - 167vdc
                  QP802CS (new) - 167vdc

                  QM801CS - 125vdc
                  QM802CS - 8vdc

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                  • Davi.p
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                    • Sep 2009
                    • 4264
                    • Italy - Milan

                    #69
                    What a disaster of discussion, plenty errors, you did not noticed the low value shunt resistor hidden under QP802, that is ALWAYS present in such circuits, it have to be open , check from source legs to Negative and you find it open...cmon..

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                    • nomoresonys
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                      #70
                      Reported that verbal abuse. Wonder if this site will ever do anything more than just delete the remarks??

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                      • Davi.p
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                        • Sep 2009
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                        #71
                        Is it important to help someone and remark the errors or mime to be an expert and set the user always or often in the wrong way? Bah.,..

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                        • Nicktronic
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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Davi.p
                          What a disaster of discussion, plenty errors, you did not noticed the low value shunt resistor hidden under QP802, that is ALWAYS present in such circuits, it have to be open , check from source legs to Negative and you find it open...cmon..
                          QP801CS - source to neg - 0.24 ohms
                          QP802CS - source to neg - 0.24 ohms

                          QM802CS - source to neg - 0.22 ohms

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                          • Davi.p
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                            • Sep 2009
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                            #73
                            when you shot the picture of board? Under i see glue still all around QP802, but i see scratched glue around QP801, furthermore 801 & 802 are in a separate circuit not as usual, so i expect another low value resistor on the source of QP801, i don't see well with the glue.. another thing is that you have no stby voltage, but i see not where you say you've tested all big diodes on heatsink (DM85x..)... to be clear, the standby voltage is 7,5v and rises to 12.5 when activated.. where do you measure the output? under, with maybe a little film of glue ? or on the pins? you can measure on the center pin of the 4 TO220 diodes, components side (eye to slipping probe!)

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                            • nomoresonys
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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Davi.p
                              when you shot the picture of board? Under i see glue still all around QP802, but i see scratched glue around QP801, furthermore 801 & 802 are in a separate circuit not as usual, so i expect another low value resistor on the source of QP801, i don't see well with the glue.. another thing is that you have no stby voltage, but i see not where you say you've tested all big diodes on heatsink (DM85x..)... to be clear, the standby voltage is 7,5v and rises to 12.5 when activated.. where do you measure the output? under, with maybe a little film of glue ? or on the pins? you can measure on the center pin of the 4 TO220 diodes, components side (eye to slipping probe!)
                              So where is this imaginary resistor ??

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                              • Nicktronic
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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Davi.p
                                when you shot the picture of board? Under i see glue still all around QP802, but i see scratched glue around QP801, furthermore 801 & 802 are in a separate circuit not as usual, so i expect another low value resistor on the source of QP801, i don't see well with the glue.. another thing is that you have no stby voltage, but i see not where you say you've tested all big diodes on heatsink (DM85x..)... to be clear, the standby voltage is 7,5v and rises to 12.5 when activated.. where do you measure the output? under, with maybe a little film of glue ? or on the pins? you can measure on the center pin of the 4 TO220 diodes, components side (eye to slipping probe!)
                                Just to be clear you are talking about QP801/802 and not QM801/802?
                                I've attached cleaned up pictures.

                                I tested all diodes and MOSFETs on the board and all are good, still no standby voltage.
                                Attached Files

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                                • Davi.p
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                                  #76
                                  Nicktronic you first said you tested QP802.. how did you tested? if it were shorted as usual D to S it couldn't not having broke also that shunt resistor under it..

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                                  • Nicktronic
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                                    #77
                                    Originally posted by Davi.p
                                    Nicktronic you first said you tested QP802.. how did you tested? if it were shorted as usual D to S it couldn't not having broke also that shunt resistor under it..
                                    Yes, it was shorted D to S. Where is the shunt resistor? Is it on the underside of the board, or under the heatsink?

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                                    • Davi.p
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                                      #78
                                      it is under the legs of the mosfet

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                                      • Nicktronic
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                                        #79
                                        Originally posted by Davi.p
                                        it is under the legs of the mosfet
                                        I can't see a resistor under the legs, only jumpers.
                                        Attached Files

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                                        • Davi.p
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                                          #80
                                          very difficult to see through the glue, for me you have to check all these components under here:
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