Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • binsonk
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 182
    • United States

    #1

    Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

    My Samsung LN37A550P3F_A (June 2008) flat panel TV is showing a solarized image. This is the only thing wrong with it, as far as I can tell. Based on my research I replaced the gamma IC, AS15-F Channel Voltage Buffer on the T-Con board. Or rather, by trading favors, I had a competent colleague remove and replace the chip using special equipment for surface mounting. After the repair, the solarized image persists, and if anything, got worse. What can be deduced from this?
    a. The problem is elsewhere, not the gamma IC
    b. The chip is DOA
    c. The chip is improperly installed
    a. What else might cause the image to be solarized? Is there another component on the T-Con board that might cause a solarized image? Would replacing the T-Con board fix this issue with good certainty?
    b. If the chip were DOA, would the image be solarized, as before? Could I remove the chip from the board and observe the solarized image? In other words, would I be seeing the same solarized image if the chip were DOA?
    c. Same query as b. If the chip were improperly installed, would the image still be solarized?

    I am discouraged with troubleshooting the T-Con board. Barring a quick fix with high probability of success, I will likely replace the entire T-Con board if I can be reasonably sure of success. Where would be a good place to find and purchase such a replacement?

    T-Con part numbers: AUO 55.37T04.C02 or SKU sj-55.37T04-C02
  • mmartell
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2013
    • 3189
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

    Check the voltage points with a meter and report back with them. If the graph is bad then the chip or the way in which it was replaced is still bad.

    Comment

    • Glitcher
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Mar 2013
      • 673
      • USa

      #3
      Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

      If one of the legs on the chip is not soldered on properly, it would still cause the image to be solarized, probably not in the same degree as the original though, but still solarized.

      Comment

      • Caleb
        Smokin IC's
        • Feb 2013
        • 645
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

        Seen several threads of DOA AS15 chips lately, Check voltages as mmartell advised. A loose or corroded lvds can also cause this, or possibly failing tab bonds
        If your set on a new tcon ShopJimmy has them in stock, kinda pricey though.
        Last edited by Caleb; 05-14-2014, 09:10 AM.
        Liberating magic smoke one part at a time

        Comment

        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

          1 out 5 replacement AS15 ICs I get from EBAY is bad.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

          Comment

          • binsonk
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 182
            • United States

            #6
            Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

            Please provide data sheet for AS15-F voltage points. Or do I take 48 readings? Unfortunately, there is a large frame bar nearly on top of this chip. I don't have a microscope to examine the solder job, but it looks pretty good with a magnifying glass.

            Comment

            • tibimakai
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2012
              • 3680
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

              I would go over the pins again, it happened to me before. The second time going over, with the soldering it fixed the problem.

              Comment

              • Ltank
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Jun 2013
                • 776
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

                I buy AS15-F from China, usually takes just over two weeks to get parts. Heck it is cheaper to get parts from China than across the US. Whats wrong with this picture? Odd that Digi-Key or Mouser does not sell them.

                Comment

                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

                  binsonk: you need to take the DCV at the test points for GAMMA voltage readings, they should be labeled VGMA1, VGMA2,......
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                  Comment

                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

                    As you can see, around top right by the connector J1, you can see a bunch of test pads with
                    VGMA1~22.

                    http://www.shopjimmy.com/media/catal...37t04c02_1.jpg
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                    Comment

                    • binsonk
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 182
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

                      I ordered a replacement T-con board, installed it. Result: No image. The lamp or backlight of TV is full on, audio is fine, but no image. I let TV run for an hour, with no change. Then turned TV off and on several times, occasionally producing a set of vertical lines covering a total width of 1 inch or so, located left of center. Mostly, the screen remains blank. I have re-seated the two ribbon cables to T-con board maybe 5 times. Don't know what else to do.
                      Last edited by binsonk; 07-22-2014, 02:01 PM. Reason: misspelling

                      Comment

                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

                        What DC voltage do you get at the T-CON SMD fues, check both ends of the fuse for dc Voltage.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                        Comment

                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

                          Originally posted by binsonk
                          I ordered the T-com card, installed it. Result: No image. The lamp or backlight is full on, audio is fine, but no image. I let it run for an hour, with no change. Then turned TV off and on several times, occasionally producing a set of vertical lines covering a total width of 1 inch or so, located left of center. Mostly, the screen remains blank. I have re-seated the two ribbon cables to T-com card maybe 5 times. Don't know what else to do.
                          Try with old T-con and see if you get original solarised picture, will confirm new board is bad, some people do not thoroughly test their boards.
                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

                          Comment

                          • Shinju
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 1239
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

                            Sounds like a bad panel/tab bond issue.

                            Comment

                            • binsonk
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 182
                              • United States

                              #15
                              Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

                              @tom66
                              The AS15-F chip is now completely missing on the old T-Con board. Does this change your recommendation?

                              @budm
                              Is this SMD fuse in the bottom left quadrant of the board, about 1.75" from left edge, 0.5" from bottom edge, labelled "AVDD F1" ? There's another F1 in the bottom right quadrant of the board, 2.25" from right edge, 0.25" from bottom edge, a white-colored component with "K" on top. Where is the SMD fuse on the board?
                              Last edited by binsonk; 07-22-2014, 02:50 PM. Reason: addit

                              Comment

                              • tom66
                                EVs Rule
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
                                • UK

                                #16
                                Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

                                Yes, it probably would not work without AS15-F.
                                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

                                Comment

                                • Shinju
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Mar 2014
                                  • 1239
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

                                  Originally posted by binsonk
                                  @tom66
                                  The AS15-F chip is now completely missing on the old T-Con board. Does this change your recommendation?
                                  If you want to solider the old one back on, otherwise you might need to find another board.

                                  Comment

                                  • stj
                                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                    • Dec 2009
                                    • 31003
                                    • Albion

                                    #18
                                    Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

                                    datasheet
                                    Attached Files

                                    Comment

                                    • binsonk
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Apr 2014
                                      • 182
                                      • United States

                                      #19
                                      Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

                                      The voltage across the component (SMD fuse?) with "K" on top reads 0.015 VDC, with TV turned on, of course.
                                      Last edited by binsonk; 07-22-2014, 03:40 PM.

                                      Comment

                                      • tom66
                                        EVs Rule
                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 32560
                                        • UK

                                        #20
                                        Re: Replacing AS15-F did not fix solarized image

                                        You shoulfd check both ends with black lead on chassis ground, red on fuse.
                                        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

                                        Comment

                                        Related Topics

                                        Collapse

                                        • reach7458
                                          philips 37pf8404 solarized image (changed as15f already)
                                          by reach7458
                                          I got here an philips 37pf8404 with a solarized image. image one

                                          First guess its a bad as15f. so I replaced it with another. Same issues
                                          So I replaced it again with a rm5101. Same issues

                                          Problem is that is projecting a solarized image irregularly. When I pull the hdmi cable and put it back all is okay for a undetermined time. It also helps if I change the input from one hdmi port and back.

                                          One thing thats weird and I don't remember if it was the case with the previous tvs I repaired.

                                          When the image is solarized it doesn't affect...
                                          08-03-2020, 08:27 AM
                                        • Focus2005
                                          HP OMEN 16-C0114NW – no image after replacing CPU Ryzen 7 5800H with 5 5600H and flashing BIOS
                                          by Focus2005
                                          Hello everyone.

                                          I have another HP OMEN 16-C0114NW laptop with serial number 5CD1501LJX. The original problem was as follows. The laptop could not load Windows and every time it threw a bluescreen - y - most often WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR. The processor that was originally in it was AMD RYZEN 7 5800H MOBILE PROCESSOR - 100-000000295. I decided to replace it with a fully functional, used AMD RYZEN 5 5600H MOBILE PROCESSOR - 100-000000296, which I got from a donor board, on which it worked 100%. After soldering the processor, I also uploaded a new, fresh BIOS to it with the UBT2 program...
                                          05-01-2025, 05:41 AM
                                        • jason123
                                          Hisense 65R6E3 double-image / horizontal strips - TCON?
                                          by jason123
                                          Hello all. 3 years back, with your help, I replaced the LEDs on this TV. It's been working great. Yesterday, I turned it on (garage TV), and it has blurred horiz / vert lines as you see in photos. Definitely no physical hit or damage. Top 1/6th of the screen is perfect. Could it be main / TCON board? No tabs to cut on this model. Thank you...
                                          07-19-2025, 08:07 AM
                                        • Document Archive
                                          HP Elite Slice G2 + Image Load & Asset Tag Elite Slice i5-7500T Specification for Upgrade or Repair
                                          by Document Archive
                                          This specification for the HP Elite Slice G2 + Image Load & Asset Tag can be useful for upgrading or repairing a desktop PC that is not working. As a community we are working through our specifications to add valuable data like the Elite Slice G2 + Image Load & Asset Tag boardview and Elite Slice G2 + Image Load & Asset Tag schematic. Our users have donated over 1 million documents which are being added to the site. This page will be updated soon with additional information. Alternatively you can request additional help from our users directly on the relevant badcaps forum. Please...
                                          09-12-2024, 02:20 PM
                                        • x_orange90_x
                                          TCL 50S535 bad tcon or panel issue?
                                          by x_orange90_x
                                          Just bought this for 10 bucks yesterday hoping to fix it. The guy said water dropped inside from a dehumidifier hose and it started showing black and white vertical bars then went blank. When I got it home and turned it on it came on fine and displayed correctly but I was noticing faint vertical bars in the image. After a little bit I turned it off and back on and it was a black screen again. I opened it up to check for water damage and corrosion but didn't find anything of the sort. I cleaned the ribbons anyway and reconnected them but still got a blank screen. If I disconnect the right side...
                                          03-29-2025, 11:02 PM
                                        • Loading...
                                        • No more items.
                                        Working...