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  • Fwrothy
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 178
    • Canada

    #61
    Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

    I was just asking a general question Selldoor. I know very little and trying to learn. My question was asking if TO262 is a case type? If so what is the definition of a TO262 case?

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #62
      Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

      TO262 is a case format. It's like the TO220 but the metal tab is missing, it's primarily used in surface mount applications (like TO263, known as D2PAK.)
      You want TO220 format.
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #63
        Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

        Just make sure the tab is isolated.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • Fwrothy
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 178
          • Canada

          #64
          Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

          Originally posted by tom66
          TO262 is a case format. It's like the TO220 but the metal tab is missing, it's primarily used in surface mount applications (like TO263, known as D2PAK.)
          You want TO220 format.
          Thanks Tom66, just came from wiki, looks to me like TO-220F. Can u confirm or does it matter?

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          • Fwrothy
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 178
            • Canada

            #65
            Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

            Thanks Buddm that's the answer I was looking for!

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            • Fwrothy
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 178
              • Canada

              #66
              Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

              So is there a parts list or not, all I could find for rdenca231wjqz was 'unit replacement item'.
              Need to spec ic for next step.

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              • selldoor
                Slow Learner
                • Dec 2010
                • 7870

                #67
                Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                Whoah!! did you see my late edits re P channel N channel

                Dont think those digikey ones will do
                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                • Fwrothy
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 178
                  • Canada

                  #68
                  Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                  Could you elaborate pls,as I mentioned before, still got my training wheels on. (-:

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                  • Fwrothy
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 178
                    • Canada

                    #69
                    Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                    Originally posted by budm
                    Here is the simplified diagram and the how that shorted out MOSFET is connected.
                    From this this schem, are these FETs not N channel
                    I'm getting confused.
                    Attached Files
                    Last edited by Fwrothy; 02-27-2014, 07:22 PM. Reason: Include diagram

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #70
                      Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                      They are almost certainly N-MOSFETs.
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • Fwrothy
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 178
                        • Canada

                        #71
                        Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                        Having difficulty finding anything to match IC7800 that drives the damaged MOSFET Q7808
                        It's an ST brand with designation DAS001/ on the top line and EZ807 below.

                        Incidentally the other MOSFET Q7805 paralleled by source pins is driven by IC7801 which is an ST L6562D ( lower line EZ810) it's easy to find.
                        Last edited by Fwrothy; 02-27-2014, 11:50 PM.

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                        • selldoor
                          Slow Learner
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 7870

                          #72
                          Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                          Originally posted by Fwrothy
                          Having difficulty finding anything to match IC7800 that drives the damaged MOSFET Q7808
                          It's an ST brand with designation DAS001/ on the top line and EZ807 below.

                          Incidentally the other MOSFET Q7805 paralleled by source pins is driven by IC7801 which is an ST L6562D ( lower line EZ810) it's easy to find.
                          Sorry if I confused you but didnt want you buying the wrong one.
                          Thing is that almost all the ones listed on Ebay say that it is a P channel
                          That does correspond with the "P" as part of the part number. Then I realised
                          that the ones we had seen were all N channel and it does seem odd that the marking for both is the same - still has me wondering anyway follow Tom and Budm on that.
                          Whilst it is not confirmed I think the das001 is a TSM103 - It was suggested by Ben7 and also appears with the dual description on some schematics if you google images for it
                          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                          • Fwrothy
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 178
                            • Canada

                            #73
                            Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                            Originally posted by selldoor
                            Sorry if I confused you but didnt want you buying the wrong one.
                            Thing is that almost all the ones listed on Ebay say that it is a P channel
                            That does correspond with the "P" as part of the part number. Then I realised
                            that the ones we had seen were all N channel and it does seem odd that the marking for both is the same - still has me wondering anyway follow Tom and Budm on that.
                            Whilst it is not confirmed I think the das001 is a TSM103 - It was suggested by Ben7 and also appears with the dual description on some schematics if you google images for it
                            Thanks Selldoor , no worries I find confusion a normal part of the learning process. Any idea where to find a data sheet for the das01 or cross reference to TSM103?

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                            • Fwrothy
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 178
                              • Canada

                              #74
                              Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                              Originally posted by tom66
                              It looks identical to my PSU board, so it should be close enough. The only difference to me is a missing filter choke probably for the US version, the EMI restrictions are lesser there maybe.
                              Tom66 can u find the Q7808 on your RDENCA231WJQZ board,I was unsuccessful in finding it on the schem?
                              Would be on the sink rail near the Q7805...

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                              • selldoor
                                Slow Learner
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 7870

                                #75
                                Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                                Originally posted by Fwrothy
                                Thanks Selldoor , no worries I find confusion a normal part of the learning process. Any idea where to find a data sheet for the das01 or cross reference to TSM103?

                                No google in Canada? here is one- you can find others

                                http://elektrotanya.com/files/forum/...001_TSM103.JPG

                                doesnt prove anything.

                                I have gone to Algeria for 2 weeks so probably no internet
                                Well not for free!!
                                Last edited by selldoor; 03-01-2014, 03:16 PM.
                                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                • Fwrothy
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Feb 2014
                                  • 178
                                  • Canada

                                  #76
                                  Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                                  Originally posted by selldoor
                                  No google in Canada? here is one- you can find others

                                  http://elektrotanya.com/files/forum/...001_TSM103.JPG

                                  doesnt prove anything.

                                  I have gone to Algeria for 2 weeks so probably no internet
                                  Well not for free!!
                                  No but a data sheet would I believe. I have the google -just not the experience or background knowledge...
                                  I hope you are in Algeria for pleasure on a vacation, regardless, enjoy!
                                  Thanks for the help.

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                                  • tom66
                                    EVs Rule
                                    • Apr 2011
                                    • 32560
                                    • UK

                                    #77
                                    Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                                    I will try and check your part requested as soon as I open the TV again.
                                    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                    • Fwrothy
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Feb 2014
                                      • 178
                                      • Canada

                                      #78
                                      Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                                      Thanks in advance Tom66.
                                      As far as I can tell the Q7808 does not exist in the RDENCA231WJQZ.

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                                      • Fwrothy
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Feb 2014
                                        • 178
                                        • Canada

                                        #79
                                        Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                                        Originally posted by tom66
                                        I will try and check your part requested as soon as I open the TV again.
                                        Thanks anyway Tom66 I have confirmed it does not exist on that board nor does the second coil l7802 under the cage.

                                        I have ordered a new MOSFET but do not have a scope to check the L6552 (IC7801) oscillator that drives the gate. Any suggestions?
                                        Last edited by Fwrothy; 03-03-2014, 05:58 PM.

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #80
                                          Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                                          So your board is not the same as the one from Shopjimmy that we were using to troubleshooting your board? it does not have Dual PFC circuits?
                                          I will not taking a chance of installing the new MOSFET without replacing the IC, if the the out put of the IC is stuck on HI (instead of turning the MOSFET ON-OFF), it will cause your new MOSFET to blow, so makes sure to leave the lamp in place of the fuse.
                                          Your picture in post 18 I see two MOSFETs and two PFC diodes though.
                                          Attached Files
                                          Last edited by budm; 03-03-2014, 06:16 PM.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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