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  • MisterD
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2012
    • 668
    • United States

    #21
    Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

    I'm not at home where the tv is at right now bud, I will be back there tomorrow sometime. and may not have access to a computer anymore until then. but will check back asap. Thanks Bud.

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    • MisterD
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Oct 2012
      • 668
      • United States

      #22
      Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

      Does that mean the pin marked STBY should have 12v? at this time it's nothing, although the pin next to it marked 3v3 has 3.3 v.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

        The STBY (PS_ON) pin should have >3VDC on it when TV is powered up, but I think you have already verify that it is at 0V.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • MisterD
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Oct 2012
          • 668
          • United States

          #24
          Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

          Originally posted by budm
          Hmm, it sounds like this TV has 3.3V and 12v standby power supply.
          So do you have the chassis number of this TV? I need to look for service manual for it.
          After looking closer I found the Chassis number on the TV Back. It Is
          Chassis Number PL9.0 I appreciate you help. Thanks.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

            OK, I will search elektrotanya to see if it has this chassis service manual. I think you will need new main board.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • MisterD
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Oct 2012
              • 668
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              #26
              Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

              I found it here.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

                I downloaded the service manual, it does not have the same power supply board as yours, the service manual has power supply board and the inverter board, yours uses combo power supply-inverter board all in one.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #28
                  Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

                  Don't know how much it will help but here's the 42" manual:
                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                  • MisterD
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 668
                    • United States

                    #29
                    Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

                    Originally posted by budm
                    OK, I will search elektrotanya to see if it has this chassis service manual. I think you will need new main board.
                    At this point I don't know what else to do, so I think i will be getting a replacement main board but won't be able to for a few weeks, I'm hoping the power surge or lightning didn't wipe out the T-Con board as well, I'll be updating this thread after I get the main board (SSB) installed.

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                    • MisterD
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 668
                      • United States

                      #30
                      Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

                      Help! I found this out while researching the Power Supply Board used in this TV Set. Please see my very first posting on this Thread..I got this TV from someone else whom replaced the power supply board their self...Shop Jimmy this Link..http://www.shopjimmy.com/philips-272...wer-supply.htm
                      Shows the board for this model is part# 22721710092 or 22721710096 but here's what is actually in this TV part# 227217100695 that someone else installed and I DO NOT have the original board, the connectors all plug in correctly and have the correct amount of pin connections. but if you look at my 1st post#1 and compare to Shop Jimmys you will see that on the largest heat sink my PS Board has only 3 Mosfets ( i think that's what they are) and theirs has 4, I can't find any information to tell me if these boards do actually interchange, so maybe that's why the set won't power on, I don't know and would appreciate any HELP I can get. Thanks!

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                      • selldoor
                        Slow Learner
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 7870

                        #31
                        Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

                        You may well be correct - This link does not mention your set as having known compatibility http://www.retechtv.com/products/272...s-power-supply


                        EDIT having said that - that one in the link also has 4 - pity we cant read the wwhite barcode label - I think Budm recommends working on the label rather then the board number when replacing boards as they
                        sometimes use the same board and just modify it in the factory so the
                        barcode label is the final descriptor
                        Last edited by selldoor; 11-23-2012, 02:37 PM.
                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                        • MisterD
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                          • Oct 2012
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                          #32
                          Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

                          The white barcode label on the power supply board that someone else installed in this tv is 227217100695, In searching Ebay and Shopjimmy I keep seeing boards ending in 0692 and 0696 but none ending in 0695, I just double checked the barcode again to verify it does definitely end in 0695.

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                          • MisterD
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                            • Oct 2012
                            • 668
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                            #33
                            Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

                            Okay, according to information at this link:

                            http://www.hdtvparts.net/products/38...t828a-phi.aspx

                            the 227217100695 should be compatible in my model 47PFL3704D/F7

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                            • selldoor
                              Slow Learner
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 7870

                              #34
                              Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

                              Yes - well that board might be compatible - indeed the one you have might be as I thought you and others had decided it was a main board fault.

                              Anyway another aspect to conjure with is that in the top right corner on your board picture there are links depending on what the board was fitted to in your case a 42 inch Funai. As there are no pictures of the back of the board I dont know if the link is of any relevance to the working of the board or just for Identification.
                              IF it is relevant then perhaps moving it from Funnai 42 to Funai 47 might help
                              but I dont know enough about TVs to say. Perhaps Tom does or perhaps you can find more pictures.
                              Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                              • MisterD
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                                • Oct 2012
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                                #35
                                Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

                                Trying to figure out if these 2 philips 47" LCD could use the same LCD Panel. Models 47PFL5704D/F7 and 47PFL3704D/F7 both have chassis PL9.0, I might have a chance to buy one that has a cracked lcd panel that has a working chassis, to use the chassis with my good LCD Panel. but I can't look at it now. does anyone know of a way to cross reference Panels to model or chassis # ? or do the LCD Panels have to be an exact match by Panel numbers? Thanks!

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

                                  I dot believe you can tell by the sticker om the outside since they can change to different LCD panel manufacturer at any time. You will have to look at the sticker panel itself, and not only that, there are more than one version of the same panel model number, one may use 5V for T-CON, another version may use 12v for T-CON. I ran into that before.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • MisterD
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Oct 2012
                                    • 668
                                    • United States

                                    #37
                                    Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

                                    Originally posted by budm
                                    I dot believe you can tell by the sticker om the outside since they can change to different LCD panel manufacturer at any time. You will have to look at the sticker panel itself, and not only that, there are more than one version of the same panel model number, one may use 5V for T-CON, another version may use 12v for T-CON. I ran into that before.
                                    I just got back home from Vacation last night, so Bud you are saying there are more than one version of the same panel model number, one may use 5v for T-CON and another may use 12V for T-CON, my question is are these different version panels labeled differently?? here's how mine is labeled

                                    LG Display LC470WUE (SB) (A1)
                                    White Sticker Barcode number is 47098Z1808911 871B

                                    I'm going to be looking at another Philips 47" LCD TV soon...Do the panel numbers need to match exactly? what should I look for? Thanks!

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

                                      "LG Display LC470WUE (SB) (A1)"
                                      So it can be LG Display LC470WUE (SB) (A2), or B1, or C1, ETC.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • MisterD
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Oct 2012
                                        • 668
                                        • United States

                                        #39
                                        Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

                                        I've done some research on Shopjimmy by looking at these two different model numbers and LCD Panels they use, I don't think it will work, he wants $75 for his with cracked screen and I can buy a replacement Main Board with the exact same part number as mine for less than $60.

                                        When I looked up his Model with cracked screen it uses LC470WUF-SBA1, or LC470WUD-SBA1
                                        Last edited by MisterD; 12-09-2012, 06:28 PM.

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                                        • MisterD
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                                          • Oct 2012
                                          • 668
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                                          #40
                                          Re: Philips 47" LCD TV.. Dead..Model # 47PFL3704D/F7

                                          I ordered a replacement Main Board, will update after I get it installed.

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