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  • kevinm34232
    Badcaps Legend
    • May 2012
    • 1884
    • USA

    #1

    Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

    TV shows red standby LED, will not power on.

    After inspection of PS board, noticed high voltage blue cap CM810 leaked all over main filter cap CP803, and one leg was burnt off of the blue cap (B 222K 1KV). Also, nearby RM801 is open, and CP803 tested bad.

    Does it sound like the blue cap caused this? I have not found the value of RM801 in the SM I have either, I read somewhere that this is some type of fuse resistor?
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  • kevinm34232
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    • May 2012
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    #2
    Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

    Is this correct list?
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    • vinceroger69
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      • Mar 2012
      • 6714
      • uk

      #3
      Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

      this may help
      http://www.electro-tech-online.com/r...er-supply.html

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      • selldoor
        Slow Learner
        • Dec 2010
        • 7870

        #4
        Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

        Resistor appears to have Red Red silver gold bands, if that is correct then it is 0.22 ohms 5%. Hard to tell but if the casing was pale blue then it could have been fusible.
        Parts lists tend not to include the components on the power supply - I dont think you will find the other components listed either. A faulty big cap could have caused this if it went short however you will need to test other nearby parts QM802 and the one next to it.
        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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        • kevinm34232
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          • May 2012
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          #5
          Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

          Im trying to check QM801 and QM802 (FQPF5N50C), I get 0.00ohms reading from G to S on both, .0L on all other combinations, does that mean anything?

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #6
            Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

            Out of circuit? Sounds like gate-source short. If you touched the leads of the transistor, you could have ESD-zapped them.
            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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            • kevinm34232
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              • May 2012
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              #7
              Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

              Sorry this is in circuit right now, what readings should I expect between pins if good and bad?

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #8
                Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

                Gate source should read open or very high resistance.
                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                • multimeter
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 739
                  • united kingdom

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

                  FQPF5N50C have a high failiure rate on samsung power supplys.

                  rm801 is def a 0.22ohm ,and a fusable resistor.

                  out of curiosity have you checked the main bridge rectifier also?,i wondering if a shorted main filter cap has done this damage.
                  fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

                  ----------------------------------------------
                  please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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                  • senndogg
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 383
                    • Albania

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

                    i think you should do a list with the failed components. begin with the transistor, resistor, diodes etc. remember when this mosfet fails it takes several components after. in your case (gate-source short) the main IC may have gone.
                    btw, this psu is 70$ on ebay.

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                    • kevinm34232
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                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

                      I think G and S are pins 1 and 3, out of circuit is fine, but checking pads where pins 1 and 3 go into show no resistance.

                      I just ordered the main cap, the resistor and the high voltage cap, we'll see what happens.
                      Last edited by kevinm34232; 07-30-2012, 12:09 PM.

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                      • selldoor
                        Slow Learner
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 7870

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

                        rather than just " see what happens "I think you should wire a lamp across
                        the fuse - if there is still a short it may save your new parts burning out as it
                        gives you a little time to switch it all off.
                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                        • kevinm34232
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                          #13
                          Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

                          OK, can you elaborate on that? Just hook up wires of a lamp to each side of fuse? By the way initially when I checked voltage I had 120v at bridge rectifier, not sure if that means anything tho.

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                          • selldoor
                            Slow Learner
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 7870

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

                            Originally posted by kevinm34232
                            OK, can you elaborate on that? Just hook up wires of a lamp to each side of fuse?

                            Didnt word that very well did I - I have seen it done like that but it should
                            really be as well as, not instead of the fuse. So you wire a 60 or100watt bulb into the live side of the mains lead. read about it here:
                            http://www.vintage-radio.com/projects/lamp-limiter.html




                            [QUOTE
                            By the way initially when I checked voltage I had 120v at bridge rectifier, not sure if that means anything tho.[/QUOTE]

                            Is that on the AC contacts? Usually the inner two)- what do you get on the DC contacts. ( Meter on DC - observe the polarity shown on the bridge)
                            Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
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                            • kevinm34232
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                              #15
                              Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

                              OK I've read about that before.. Are these sold anywhere premade?? It doesn't look hard to make but the time..

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                              • selldoor
                                Slow Learner
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 7870

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

                                not that i know - heres a wiring across fuse contacts example
                                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...lamp+bulb+fuse
                                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                • kevinm34232
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                                  • May 2012
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

                                  Replaced those 3 components (main cap CP803, high voltage cap CM810, and resistor RM801). TV Powers up now and is working!
                                  Last edited by kevinm34232; 08-01-2012, 08:45 PM.

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                                  • selldoor
                                    Slow Learner
                                    • Dec 2010
                                    • 7870

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

                                    Missed that last post somehow - well done- another one saved.
                                    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                    • purduejay
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                                      • Jun 2015
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

                                      Kevinm34232I'm having the same issue with the CM810. What is the parts numbers of the parts you used to replace CP803, CM810 and RM801?

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                                      • Dangermouse1
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                                        • Nov 2016
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA Power Supply Issue

                                        Originally posted by kevinm34232
                                        Replaced those 3 components (main cap CP803, high voltage cap CM810, and resistor RM801). TV Powers up now and is working!
                                        Hi. Joined just to ask you a question or two. Did that repair keep? Also, did you double check the components you removed to see if they were really dead/damaged?

                                        I ask because I opened up a LN3242HX and found a damaged RM801 (fusible .22 Ohm) with the gunk on it and the nearby caps, just like you reported. Unlike you though, I believe that gunk is the adhesive they add to... to ... well whatever reasons they have for gooping parts together. Reduce vibrations? The same goop was in a number of other places too. Just a little darker and a little crumbly around the RM801 because of heat damage (I think). I could be wrong, but the HV cap seems to be fine from what I can tell (tested in place with ESR meter). Since the gunk could only have come from the HV cap, which seems fine, I think it must be just adhesive.

                                        Obviously there should be some reason the fusible resistor blew... that's why I was hoping you could also report back on if the fix was stable since then.

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