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  • RJARRRPCGP
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jul 2004
    • 6301
    • USA

    #1281
    Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

    Originally posted by jazzie366
    Where did you find this!? That's a KenTek PSU which the manufacturer of is currently unknown, they should be found and shamed and also made liable for all the PCs that have been destroyed by them.
    That PSU looks like a laptop PSU on steroids! LOL!
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    • Bungz
      Senior Member
      • May 2013
      • 133
      • UK

      #1282
      Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

      Found this little beauty in a Compaq Presario A64.

      Must have been a thoughtless replacement at some point for the original!

      Fan was very stiff so I guess it ran hot and somewhat overloaded for some time in order to cook more or less every cap in the unit!
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      • Dan81
        SNES-powered
        • Oct 2013
        • 1865
        • Romania

        #1283
        Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

        Originally posted by Bungz
        Found this little beauty in a Compaq Presario A64.

        Must have been a thoughtless replacement at some point for the original!

        Fan was very stiff so I guess it ran hot and somewhat overloaded for some time in order to cook more or less every cap in the unit!
        That might actually be worth a fix.

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        • PeteS in CA
          Badcaps Legend
          • Aug 2005
          • 3578
          • USA, Unsure of Planet

          #1284
          Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

          I think I saw a March, 2001 date code on one of the caps. There's a good chance to original PSU was from Delta, and if it lasted for 15 years, it did pretty good. At any rate, while I wouldn't use that thing for the full rated 300W when brand new, restored it would probably be good for 200W-250W. The two potential limiting factors would be the 2A +5VSB and, more importantly, the 10A rating for the +12V output.
          PeteS in CA

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          • Bungz
            Senior Member
            • May 2013
            • 133
            • UK

            #1285
            Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

            The PSU predates the Compaq by some years without a doubt.

            I figured the person I acquired the machine off did a quick fix and swapped the PSU out for one from a older machine.

            Usually I am up for repairing such things but the weak 12V rail really means its rather useless for me in this system.

            Machine however is now sporting a 300W FSP unit and it working perefctly

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            • Dan81
              SNES-powered
              • Oct 2013
              • 1865
              • Romania

              #1286
              Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

              Originally posted by Bungz
              The PSU predates the Compaq by some years without a doubt.

              I figured the person I acquired the machine off did a quick fix and swapped the PSU out for one from a older machine.

              Usually I am up for repairing such things but the weak 12V rail really means its rather useless for me in this system.

              Machine however is now sporting a 300W FSP unit and it working perefctly
              As far as my experience goes, I used recapped Deers similar to the Mercury above (except the diodes-on-bracket were replaced with actual rectifiers) to power Northwood based PCs. (in fact,one of the PCs I gave runs a P4 2.8 Northwood with a FX5200,a MSI 845E Max mobo and a 120GB WDC HDD)
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              • momaka
                master hoarder
                • May 2008
                • 12164
                • Bulgaria

                #1287
                Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                Originally posted by Bungz
                Found this little beauty in a Compaq Presario A64.

                Must have been a thoughtless replacement at some point for the original!

                Fan was very stiff so I guess it ran hot and somewhat overloaded for some time in order to cook more or less every cap in the unit!
                Oh Deer!

                It's one of their "2003"/"2005" chip-of-the-year BTX designs (BTX for Deer/L&C typically signifies the primary is located on the same side as the receptacle plug and the secondary is same side as the fan... not the other way around like with other "normal" PSUs).

                That said, with a better rectifier on the 12V rail and bigger output caps, this thing could probably provide up to 14 Amps on the 12V rail, which should be enough to power a Pentium 4 / Core 2 Duo / low power Core i3 or i5 system with on-board or low-power GPU and single HDD. I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle fixing it, though.

                I would do it for fun, but I don't expect anyone else to be like me.

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                • kevin!
                  recapping PCB.
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 195
                  • España

                  #1288
                  Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                  The worst trash I could find, this PSU i was installed on a pc, the owner of the pc complained that it did not start all the time, and it squeaked, and it did not work stable the pc.

                  Subject: 3G0 "450W"

                  primary
                  ate 7n60
                  c5027s
                  2 cap jay'long 200v 470 microfarads
                  ic ka3842
                  diode bridge diferent size LOL
                  x2 sep 1n5
                  x2 sep rl2


                  secondary
                  diode lt 338
                  switch st stps30 45cw 30A (The only thing of decent brand xD) but the transformer that accompanies ... this would cause havoc. does not meet what promises in its label.
                  apd sbr1040ct
                  4x chengx 10v 2200 microfarads
                  2x chengx 16v 470 microfarads for 5vsb
                  2x chengx 16v 470 microfarads

                  At least it has one good thing, it has 2 thermistors

                  The transformer is super tiny!
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                  • RukyCon
                    A Fake Rubycon
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 816
                    • USA

                    #1289
                    Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                    It's sad how that can be passed off as a 450W PSU. [I'm guessing 100W maybe.]

                    I like the brand of the input capacitors. [jay'long]
                    I'm not a expert, I'm just doing my best.

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                    • kevin!
                      recapping PCB.
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 195
                      • España

                      #1290
                      Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                      Originally posted by ruky con
                      It's sad how that can be passed off as a 450W PSU. [I'm guessing 100W maybe.]

                      I like the brand of the input capacitors. [jay'long]
                      It will surely be 100W, As it requires power, it bursts xD
                      What is not as it has not yet exploded, nor the capacitors "jay long" xD.
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                      • RukyCon
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                        • Jan 2017
                        • 816
                        • USA

                        #1291
                        Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                        What are you planing on doing to that PSU? Scrap it? Burn it? Throw it off an cliff?
                        I'm not a expert, I'm just doing my best.

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                        • kevin!
                          recapping PCB.
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 195
                          • España

                          #1292
                          Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                          Originally posted by ruky con
                          What are you planing on doing to that PSU? Scrap it? Burn it? Throw it off an cliff?
                          I have thought, is to charge to burst, but for lack of machinery I can not do it .
                          I'll think of something like busting her xD.
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                          • RukyCon
                            A Fake Rubycon
                            • Jan 2017
                            • 816
                            • USA

                            #1293
                            Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                            Originally posted by kevin!
                            I have thought, is to charge to burst, but for lack of machinery I can not do it .
                            I'll think of something like busting her xD.
                            I have a crap PSU which i'm thinking of putting 2.1KV into the input via an MOT. [Microwave oven transformer.]
                            I'm not a expert, I'm just doing my best.

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                            • ChaosLegionnaire
                              HC Overclocker
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 3264
                              • Singapore

                              #1294
                              Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                              woe... kilovolts... better be careful when u do that! u get zapped, its your funeral!

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                              • RukyCon
                                A Fake Rubycon
                                • Jan 2017
                                • 816
                                • USA

                                #1295
                                Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                Originally posted by ChaosLegionnaire
                                woe... kilovolts... better be careful when u do that! u get zapped, its your funeral!
                                Yes, i know...
                                I've done this more then once.
                                I'm not a expert, I'm just doing my best.

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                                • PeteS in CA
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 3578
                                  • USA, Unsure of Planet

                                  #1296
                                  Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                  switch st stps30 45cw 30A (The only thing of decent brand xD)
                                  Actually, unless it's counterfeit, that KA3842 is either Samsung or Fairchild (Fairchild bought some of Samsung's linear IC products around that time).

                                  Those input caps (ignoring the non-brand brand) and the size of those heatsinks would put the realistic output power at around 250W maximum.
                                  PeteS in CA

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                                  • kevin!
                                    recapping PCB.
                                    • Jul 2013
                                    • 195
                                    • España

                                    #1297
                                    Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                    Originally posted by ruky con
                                    I have a crap PSU which i'm thinking of putting 2.1KV into the input via an MOT. [Microwave oven transformer.]
                                    I dare not touch a microwave transformer xD. What I want is petarla the 450w indicated, I will put several H4 light bulbs, to see if I can overload it.

                                    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                                    Actually, unless it's counterfeit, that KA3842 is either Samsung or Fairchild (Fairchild bought some of Samsung's linear IC products around that time).

                                    Those input caps (ignoring the non-brand brand) and the size of those heatsinks would put the realistic output power at around 250W maximum.
                                    I also think it, I think it is false.
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                                    • Per Hansson
                                      Super Moderator
                                      • Jul 2005
                                      • 5895
                                      • Sweden

                                      #1298
                                      Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                      That transformer is just... Wow!

                                      PeteS in CA: Good guess, here is a user that tested it.
                                      The primary exploded at 277w
                                      http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6714

                                      EDIT: Here it is with a 250w rating even
                                      http://www.powsun.itxpower.net/pcpower_8867.htm
                                      Last edited by Per Hansson; 03-24-2017, 02:58 PM.
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                                      • kevin!
                                        recapping PCB.
                                        • Jul 2013
                                        • 195
                                        • España

                                        #1299
                                        Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                        Originally posted by Per Hansson
                                        That transformer is just... Wow!

                                        PeteS in CA: Good guess, here is a user that tested it.
                                        The primary exploded at 277w
                                        http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6714

                                        EDIT: Here it is with a 250w rating even
                                        http://www.powsun.itxpower.net/pcpower_8867.htm
                                        Thanks for this information, make it clear that it is the worst psu I have ever seen.
                                        I even put it at less level than deer xD.

                                        If the psu of the forum of jonnyguru exploded with 277, I do not want to imagine my PSU, since with a pentium 4 of 65w of consume gave error to start, I do not want to imagine asking for load of 277 watts, there it explodes in my face.
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                                        • RJARRRPCGP
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Jul 2004
                                          • 6301
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                                          #1300
                                          Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                          In most of the Americas, you would be lucky to get 150 W out of it...
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