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  • Agent24
    I see dead caps
    • Oct 2007
    • 4919
    • New Zealand

    #161
    Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

    Originally posted by 370forlife
    Solytech was a textiles manufacturer who bought out Deer not too long ago.
    Surprised they didn't push for cotton-based PCBs to save cost... or maybe that's what they stuff the capacitors full of.
    "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
    -David VanHorn

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    • ratdude747
      Black Sheep
      • Nov 2008
      • 17136
      • USA

      #162
      Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

      Originally posted by goodpsusearch
      TMP-ANS LC-A350ATX

      The good thing about this power supply is...... that it is not going to power a computer anymore

      Not worth of anything!












      It reminds me of those power supplies:
      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ier#post114292
      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ier#post199701
      From the build qulaity pictorial. One of the worst ATX PSU's I have seen in a while.

      I love how they dated the warranty from the time of manufacure (not the time of purchase). FAIL.
      sigpic

      (Insert witty quote here)

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #163
        Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

        It's quite fun to drop a ton of bricks on top of these. They usually work better afterwards.
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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        • c_hegge
          Badcaps Legend
          • Sep 2009
          • 5219
          • Australia

          #164
          Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

          Another cheap Sun Pro. At lest thios one does use DC-DC conversion from the 5V rail to generate the 3.3V. However, it still never managed more than about 73% efficiency on 230V at about 250W Load. I doubt it would even manage 70% in the US. At 350W, the efficiency was about 68% and it exploded after a few minutes.
          Attached Files
          I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

          No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

          Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

          Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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          • momaka
            master hoarder
            • May 2008
            • 12164
            • Bulgaria

            #165
            Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

            How is this for gutless and fried?
            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1334112631
            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1334112631
            Okay, I'll come clean - the PSU didn't come that stripped down (obviously ). This used to power my family's 400MHz Pentium II PC back in 1999-2001. The model number on the label will fool you that this in an L&C, but it's not (most likely J&C just labeled it as such). It actually used to look exactly like these (save for the different cap brands on mine)
            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ighlight=m-tec
            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1178 (see post #1)
            Seems to go also by the names of M-tec, Meico, and Frontier.

            As you can see, even without me removing the components, it's a very crappy power supply. Fortunately, it was pretty good desoldering practice for me a few years back. Also, the components I took out of it helped me save a 17" CRT monitor, a 250W HiPro PSU, and a few other things. Will soon be using one of the schottky diodes from it to make the 12V rail of a 250W Bestec 12Z a little beefier.
            Attached Files

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            • lti
              Badcaps Legend
              • May 2011
              • 2545
              • United States

              #166
              Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

              http://www.eevblog.com/forum/product...-modification/

              I don't see how that AC adapter was supposed to work without filter caps.

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              • ben7
                Capaholic
                • Jan 2011
                • 4059
                • USA

                #167
                Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                Originally posted by lti
                http://www.eevblog.com/forum/product...-modification/

                I don't see how that AC adapter was supposed to work without filter caps.
                Haha, must have a lot of 60hz hum on the output! (when its working-if it even does work at all :P)
                Its so cheap that it doesn't even work for a millisecond xD
                Note the fake certification labels!

                Look at the comments for this product!
                http://www.amazon.com/Apple-iPhone-T...pr_product_top
                LOL at one of the comments, the person said it almost caught fire, and it made their phone go whacky, probably from loads of AC hum on the output.

                -Ben

                EDIT:
                another fried PS picture!
                http://www.magicbluesmoke.org/309/in...s-nv-psu-fails
                Last edited by ben7; 04-21-2012, 09:23 AM.
                Muh-soggy-knee

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                • ratdude747
                  Black Sheep
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 17136
                  • USA

                  #168
                  Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                  Originally posted by lti
                  http://www.eevblog.com/forum/product...-modification/

                  I don't see how that AC adapter was supposed to work without filter caps.
                  umm, it did. there are 2 tiny lytics.

                  also, it might be a half bridge cemter tapped rectifier, which would produce 100hz of noise (based on the plug, looks to be a 250V 50HZ connector). The picture is too fuzzy to tell.

                  There still would be lots of noise, as those caps are probably too tiny for the job.
                  sigpic

                  (Insert witty quote here)

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                  • lti
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • May 2011
                    • 2545
                    • United States

                    #169
                    Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                    It looks like the cap on the lower left corner next to the USB connector is a filter cap, but the other cap is part of the oscillator. That looks like the single transistor oscillator that is used in most cheap adapters, but the power just goes through a single diode before going into the oscillator without a filter cap or current limiting resistor.

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                    • pdavid
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 279
                      • Hungary

                      #170
                      Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                      Originally posted by momaka
                      How is this for gutless and fried?
                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1334112631
                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1334112631
                      Okay, I'll come clean - the PSU didn't come that stripped down (obviously ). This used to power my family's 400MHz Pentium II PC back in 1999-2001. The model number on the label will fool you that this in an L&C, but it's not (most likely J&C just labeled it as such). It actually used to look exactly like these (save for the different cap brands on mine)
                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ighlight=m-tec
                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1178 (see post #1)
                      Seems to go also by the names of M-tec, Meico, and Frontier.

                      As you can see, even without me removing the components, it's a very crappy power supply. Fortunately, it was pretty good desoldering practice for me a few years back. Also, the components I took out of it helped me save a 17" CRT monitor, a 250W HiPro PSU, and a few other things. Will soon be using one of the schottky diodes from it to make the 12V rail of a 250W Bestec 12Z a little beefier.
                      Oh my... How did I miss this. The famous "Mrs. Varga and Co." psu. I just gutted one today to get the fuse and mag-amp choke.

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                      • Th3_uN1Qu3
                        Believe in
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 6031
                        • Romania

                        #171
                        Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                        That is actually a very interesting PCB. It is designed for both AT and ATX - i have both versions. All i can say it's a big mess of a PCB. The input diodes are 2A, no room for a bridge rectifier. You can't fit any input caps larger than 330u due to can size. And there's no input filtering whatsoever, not even the room for it. Crazy.
                        Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                        Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                        A working TV? How boring!

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                        • Pentium4
                          CapXon Be Gone
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 3741
                          • USA

                          #172
                          Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                          BRACE YOURSELVES, you may cry at how bad this PSU is..







                          Too lazy to label the popped caps but I'm sure you can spot them. All it was powering was an Athlon 64 x2 and a 6800GS. Efficiency = 64% Canicon caps (kill me now)

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                          • b700029
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 640

                            #173
                            Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                            How many watts was on the label? Looks like 150-200W max.

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                            • Agent24
                              I see dead caps
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 4919
                              • New Zealand

                              #174
                              Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                              The heatsinks don't seem too bad though, and there are actually inductors in the output not just wire links - also it has a bridge rectifier. It's lame but it could be worse.
                              "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                              -David VanHorn

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                              • momaka
                                master hoarder
                                • May 2008
                                • 12164
                                • Bulgaria

                                #175
                                Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3
                                That is actually a very interesting PCB.
                                Makes me wonder what software they used for the top-side printing - it looks horrible. MS Paint maybe?

                                Originally posted by pdavid
                                I just gutted one today to get the fuse and mag-amp choke.
                                The MOSFET and 431 shunt regulator are also pretty useful. I was prototyping a circuit yesterday and needed some odd resistor values. Found most of them in the bag where I have the parts from that PSU.
                                The heat sinks aren't too bad either, especially the secondary one. Might use it in the headphone amp I'm going to build (0.o).
                                Funny how I find this PSU much more useful for the parts than if it was actually working and in one piece.

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                                • kc8adu
                                  Super Moderator
                                  • Nov 2003
                                  • 8832
                                  • U.S.A!

                                  #176
                                  Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                  the 3rd pic asks a question after the fact!.

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                                  • SuperDuty
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Mar 2011
                                    • 299
                                    • France

                                    #177
                                    Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                    Delta Electronics power supply and control board from a Belinea 1925 S1W screen I found in the recycling center electronics section this afternoon :




                                    Main cap is Nichicon, ALL the bloated caps are CapXon. The screen is not even five years old according to the PCB build dates :/ Really bad caps.
                                    Replaced them all with with what I had on hand (including Fujyuu and other sh**) but mostly for test purposes, the screen works fine but makes an annoying buzzing sound. It's kinda weird since I replaced the two CapXon GL105°C on the power supply board with the exact same CapXon GL from another PSU, with the same ratings, but a bit older. I guess I should buy some new caps for this one.
                                    Last edited by SuperDuty; 04-30-2012, 03:31 PM.

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                                    • SuperDuty
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Mar 2011
                                      • 299
                                      • France

                                      #178
                                      Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                      Comparison of a two PSUs :
                                      On the left, a 145W AT (not sure, it has AT connectors but no switch like most AT PSUs) Astec power supply, from 1997, high quality components and very clean PCB.
                                      On the right, the infamous Heden PSX-A330U, supposedly 480W...problem ? U mad ?

                                      I got it in a case I bought in 2004 or 2005. I used this power supply with an Althon XP2200+, a K7S8X motherboard and a Radeon 9600 Pro for about five years with no problem. No filter, no PFC, a lot of missing components. I've stripped it and threw the rest to the trash.



                                      This is a famous french article explaining in details about how bad power supplies from this brand are : http://www.x86-secret.com/dossier-36...on_Noname.html

                                      Two weeks ago I decided to have a look at my computer power supplies. I had about 20 of them...I have about 10 left, I even found a DEER power supply ! It will be recycled soon.

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                                      • tom66
                                        EVs Rule
                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 32560
                                        • UK

                                        #179
                                        Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                        Originally posted by SuperDuty
                                        Delta Electronics power supply and control board from a Belinea 1925 S1W screen I found in the recycling center electronics section this afternoon :




                                        Main cap is Nichicon, ALL the bloated caps are CapXon. The screen is not even five years old according to the PCB build dates :/ Really bad caps.
                                        Replaced them all with with what I had on hand (including Fujyuu and other sh**) but mostly for test purposes, the screen works fine but makes an annoying buzzing sound. It's kinda weird since I replaced the two CapXon GL105°C on the power supply board with the exact same CapXon GL from another PSU, with the same ratings, but a bit older. I guess I should buy some new caps for this one.
                                        Heh, the lone Rubycon and Nichicon are fine -> but the rest are CrapXon so they bulge like anything else! I have replaced so many bulged CapXon they are down their with Fuhhhjyuuuuuu.
                                        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                        • Pentium4
                                          CapXon Be Gone
                                          • Sep 2011
                                          • 3741
                                          • USA

                                          #180
                                          Re: the gutless, bloated, and fried power supply hall of shame

                                          Originally posted by b700029
                                          How many watts was on the label? Looks like 150-200W max.
                                          It was labeled as a 550W...

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