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  • aortiz
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 120
    • mexico

    #41
    Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

    the lamps dont flash at all
    i do have 19v at both sides of the fuse.
    i dont know where INV-ON PIN IS IN THE INVERTER BOARD is.can you tell me please?
    sorry for the delay,i am having a lot of trouble connecting,tomorrow i got to go buy another antenna.
    Last edited by aortiz; 02-18-2014, 10:07 PM.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #42
      Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

      By the way, do you have 3.3V and 5V on that USB/SMPS board? I know you do not have the 12V.
      I do not remember which test point is for the BL_ON, DIMM.
      You need to take DC voltage readings on these three test points TP713, 714, and 716 when monitor is off and when it is turned on.
      Attached Files
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • aortiz
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 120
        • mexico

        #43
        Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

        i do have 3.3 v all the time,the 5 v show up when i turn on the monitor.
        tp7-13 is 0 volts when the unit is off and when its on
        tp7-14 is 2.75 when is off and 2.77v when is on
        tp-16 is 0 volts when is off and 0 volts when is on.
        i took this readings in refrence to ground whis is labeled tp712 on the power board.

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        • aortiz
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 120
          • mexico

          #44
          Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

          is 2.77v a normal reading ?is going to the + side of c142 ,10mfd,25v cap.i can not find where is going from there.
          on the video logic card.
          Last edited by aortiz; 02-18-2014, 11:46 PM.

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          • aortiz
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 120
            • mexico

            #45
            Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

            bud,its almost midnite,i am going to bed.
            tomorrow i will try to get connected early.
            i lived in oakland calif for about 30 yrs and it just to be that sf bay its 2 hrs earlier than this part of mexico.anyway i will be here tomorrow morning around 9 our time to see if i had any replies.thank you bud,and have a good night.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #46
              Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

              "i do have 3.3 v all the time,the 5 v show up when i turn on the monitor." That is good, because the common failure of this USB/SUB-POWER supply is due to failed diodes in the 5V or 3.3V buck regulator power supply.

              "tp7-13 is 0 volts when the unit is off and when its on
              tp7-14 is 2.75 when is off and 2.77v when is on
              tp-16 is 0 volts when is off and 0 volts when is on."

              Those voltages do not look right. I will need to find out what those 3 pins are.

              "is 2.77v a normal reading ?is going to the + side of c142 ,10mfd,25v cap.i can not find where is going from there.
              on the video logic card." I do not know what that C142 is.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • Davi.p
                Hobbist Tech
                • Sep 2009
                • 4297
                • Italy - Milan

                #47
                Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

                Ortiz my test was another: with all connected up also pc connec. and swithced on does you see a dark image if you point a lamp from the side to screen?

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                • selldoor
                  Slow Learner
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7870

                  #48
                  Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

                  Here is another thread on a set which MAY have the same boards Aortiz perhaps you can
                  check they are the same. Unfortunately they dont manage to fix the set but has a lot of voltages at test points ( as there was no fix we still dont know if these are correct or not)
                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ighlight=tp713
                  Post 2 is the "pointed lamp" test - in 3 years on this site I have never seen it referred to as that.
                  Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                  • Davi.p
                    Hobbist Tech
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 4297
                    • Italy - Milan

                    #49
                    Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

                    ok i have translated better, is "lamp bet" test, is more clear now?
                    English is strange "point the lamp" is correct "pointed lamp" is another thing..
                    Last edited by Davi.p; 02-19-2014, 04:44 AM.

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                    • selldoor
                      Slow Learner
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 7870

                      #50
                      Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

                      No that is a worse translation.
                      There is no name for this test you just have to say ......... try shining a flashlight (american for torch) at different angles onto the screen to see if you can see a dark/dim image of what the PC is producing
                      Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                      • Davi.p
                        Hobbist Tech
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 4297
                        • Italy - Milan

                        #51
                        Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

                        thankyou selldoor

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                        • aortiz
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 120
                          • mexico

                          #52
                          Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

                          ok ,thank you bud.
                          could that 2.77v be the 3.3v being loaded down by something on the logic board?if i take out the cap,will i damage something else in the units when i turn it on to see if the voltage comes up? i tried disconecting connector cn702(the 7 pin connector that goes to the logic board) and the monitor wont turn on)
                          please advise

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                          • aortiz
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 120
                            • mexico

                            #53
                            Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

                            yes ,i see a dark screen when i shine a lamp to it ,sideways,frontways,etc

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                            • aortiz
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 120
                              • mexico

                              #54
                              Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

                              ok selldoor,thank you and i am going to definitly look at that thread.

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                              • selldoor
                                Slow Learner
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 7870

                                #55
                                Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

                                Originally posted by aortiz
                                i tried disconecting connector cn702(the 7 pin connector that goes to the logic board) and the monitor wont turn on)
                                please advise
                                Simple explanation there are more scattered throughout the forum maybe some in the "stickies" at the front
                                There is an interaction between the boards. when you first plug in there should be at least a standby voltage though some sets also have the 24v to the
                                inverter.
                                When you press the on button a signal is sent to the power supply to turn the rest of the voltages on via pin pson or pwr or enable further signals are sent
                                to switch on the back lights via Blon pin and subject to other internal testing being ok it should all switch on.
                                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #56
                                  Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

                                  OK, I am confused:
                                  "could that 2.77v be the 3.3v being loaded down by something on the logic board?"
                                  "i do have 3.3 v all the time,the 5 v show up when i turn on the monitor."
                                  So do you have 3.3V at the point as shown in the pictures and diagram I posted (#42) or you have 2.77V?
                                  We are not getting any where here with so many unclear answers.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • aortiz
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Feb 2014
                                    • 120
                                    • mexico

                                    #57
                                    Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

                                    sorry bud,
                                    didnt mean to confused you.
                                    that was just a dumb question coming from somebody who knows little about monitors but has the will to learn.
                                    the reading is ,and still is 2.77v at the + side of c142 on what i call the logic board the one with the vga connector.
                                    and the reading on the usb board tp35 (positive side of c44)still is 3.3 v.
                                    Last edited by aortiz; 02-19-2014, 03:30 PM. Reason: wrong name

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                                    • aortiz
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Feb 2014
                                      • 120
                                      • mexico

                                      #58
                                      Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

                                      hello everybody ,after a long ,lonlely afternoon.,and thanks to all of you that pitched in ,budm,davip,selldoor and the treads that you guys recommended i read.
                                      i really dont know what i did but,i definitly got a backlight,not very bright but its there,maybe the brightness control can bring it up.
                                      i replaced c142,(blind shot) on logic board,and 3.3v came on at tp7-13,it was 0v.
                                      i dont get a picture yet,but i got faith on you guys.
                                      any sugestions as to where to start to look for data signal?
                                      thank you all

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                                      • selldoor
                                        Slow Learner
                                        • Dec 2010
                                        • 7870

                                        #59
                                        Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

                                        Wow! progress - do/did you have a pc connected producing a known image?
                                        and is the lvds cable attached at both ends
                                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                        • Davi.p
                                          Hobbist Tech
                                          • Sep 2009
                                          • 4297
                                          • Italy - Milan

                                          #60
                                          Re: dell 2007 WFPb monitor ,no lights

                                          what do you see on screen? Black with backlight, white ??

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