Vintage SONY Digital Clock Radio ICF-C12W no audio

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  • CapLeaker
    Leaking Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 8328
    • Canada

    #221
    Originally posted by stj
    you can tweek it without equipment pretty well,
    you set the dial to the frequency of a known radio station,
    then mess with the cans till you get that station with the strongest audio you can.
    BUT you must use a plastic tool because a metal screwdriver effects the tuning
    that would be a last resort measure…

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    • Agent24
      I see dead caps
      • Oct 2007
      • 5038
      • New Zealand

      #222
      Originally posted by CapLeaker

      Go to your local ham radio club and politely ask for help.
      Good idea! Why didn't I think of that?.... haha
      "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
      -David VanHorn

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      • UserXP
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Apr 2012
        • 443
        • Serbia

        #223
        Originally posted by Agent24

        Good idea! Why didn't I think of that?.... haha
        I just might do that, it's an excellent piece of advice, never crossed my mind! 🙂
        I will post back the outcome.

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        • UserXP
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Apr 2012
          • 443
          • Serbia

          #224
          Hello, guys. I have been quite busy for the past few weeks, so I didn't have much spare time to work on the radio. I did, however, manage to get in touch with the local radio club and they recommended visiting them as they have several members who deal with older pieces of electronics in the field of radio. But, I didn't have the time to do that as they are open only on two specific days per week after 7 pm, but I definitely intend to visit them as soon as possible.
          Now, and idea comes to my mind. If you remember, I replaced the original Tracon capacitors in this unit going with with the same ratings from the single same manufacturer (WE). I now have the idea, since I mended the damaged IF transformer and got promising results, that maybe I should go closer to the original caps. My other working unit has Rubycon CE W series (light blues sleeve) capacitors inside rated at 85°C. Do you know which modern Rubycon series is the closest equivalent of this exact series? I am thinking about ordering them if they are still produced in all the same ratings and go with the Japanese caps altogether. This will also provide me with proper spare caps for my other unit should I need to do any other replacements as well.
          Thanks as always for any info on this.

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          • stj
            Great Sage 齊天大聖
            • Dec 2009
            • 31213
            • Albion

            #225
            those are general purpose caps, i wouldnt bother.

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            • Agent24
              I see dead caps
              • Oct 2007
              • 5038
              • New Zealand

              #226
              Rubycon's most basic general purpose series is currently PK, or WA if you want a smaller can size. Both are only 85 degrees rated.
              I imagine they would be the closest to the originals, although maybe harder to get since most people want low ESR or higher temperature these days.

              I'd be surprised if it made any difference, though, the ones you put in are probably fine. From what I saw you used WCAP-ATG5 series? They are general purpose too, just 105 degrees rated instead.
              "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
              -David VanHorn

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              • UserXP
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Apr 2012
                • 443
                • Serbia

                #227
                Yes, that is true. In the service manual, all the capacitors have the same capacitance as the one printed on the caps -except for 16v33uF which is supposed to be 16v10uF. I first went with those ratings, but I will include a 16v10uF this time as per manual to see if it will make a difference. I've read that using caps with higher capacitance in radio/audio circuits can actually hinderv the frequency reception.

                Also, I have a question. When opening T4, I noticed that its internal cap looks like a coil actually, in the shape of a hollow tube. On each side the "wire" is simply straightened and goes to the lead where it's soldered. One of these ends was torn when the T4 suffered the damage in which it lost one of the pins and the ferrite coil contact.
                Now, i was thinking, by soldering an extension wire from that capacitor's end to the pin, it may have influenced the total capacitance of this internal capacitor. Would it be possible to measure the capacitance of this cap and possibly replace it by adding an external one soldered between the respective T4 pins?

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                • UserXP
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 443
                  • Serbia

                  #228
                  Or, unwinding 3-4 turns of the cap's original wire just enough so it can reach the pin for being soldered onto (would this dramatically change that capacitor's performance)?

                  For the first suggestion, I would surely have to unsolder on end of the cap off the pin to attempt to measure its capacitance, if possible. Could then use an external cap?
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                  • Agent24
                    I see dead caps
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 5038
                    • New Zealand

                    #229
                    Just the way they've connnected the wire to it, I'd say. I would leave it alone, if you damage it you don't know what the value is.

                    I think what you need to do is to get it aligned correctly now that you fixed the broken connection.
                    "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                    -David VanHorn

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                    • stj
                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 31213
                      • Albion

                      #230
                      leave the electrolytics alone,
                      every time you heat those old single sided boards you risk the traces lifting.

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