Anything worse than GSC???

[lti]

Re: Anything worse than GSC???

The absolute worst is Rulycon (the fake Rubycon). The eletrolyte in those caps will break down regardless of whether they are run near their limits or not. In fact, they will go bad without being used.

My mom has a boombox with a mixture of Rulycon, Jackcon, and an assortment of unknown no-name caps. The Jackcon caps had failed, but the rest were still good.

I have an old ISA card with GSC caps on it. I don't know how old the card is, but the caps are still good.

The worst caps I have seen are Jackcon, these, and "SS" brand caps, as shown in the pictures below.

[dmill89]

Re: Anything worse than GSC???

Like *cough cough* my 2005 SmartPower 2.0 500W.
The fan controller for the outer fan is one of the worst on the planet!

Nothing a resistor can't fix. See my post on a fan mod and recap of a SmartPower 2.0 350w.
But yah, the way they come set up from the factory is pretty bad. It causes them to run hot even under a light load, putting similar stress on the components as running it at near 100% all the time.

[RJARRRPCGP]

Re: Anything worse than GSC???

but keep in mind that those older Antecs had retarded fan speed controllers, so it's not all Fuhjyyu's fault.

Like *cough cough* my 2005 SmartPower 2.0 500W.
The fan controller for the outer fan is one of the worst on the planet!

[momaka]

Re: Anything worse than GSC???

The absolute worst is Rulycon (the fake Rubycon). The eletrolyte in those caps will break down regardless of whether they are run near their limits or not. In fact, they will go bad without being used.

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Second place I award to Stone caps. They will bulge at the slightest presence of heat.

A not so distant third, I would say Sacon FZ and maybe Evercon too (but not GSC). While they may be the same company, GSC *at least* don't go bad just by sitting around and they don't make a loud popping sound like Sacon FZ does when they fail.
I still have a Jetway N2PAP-LITE motherboard (circa 2003) with the original GSC ME caps. Works fine. I use it every now and then to test hardware and play some older games.

Fourth: CapXon. Heat them up a bit, and they'll hatch.

Fifth: All other crap caps. I don't consider Fuhjyyu that bad. Sure there were lots of failures in the early Antecs, but keep in mind that those older Antecs had retarded fan speed controllers, so it's not all Fuhjyyu's fault.
I have a Macron Power MPT-301 PSU that originally had all Fuhjyyu caps. Got it for free because the fan was stuck. The stuck fan caused some serious darkening of the PCB near the secondary heat sink. Guess what? - Those Fuhjyyu caps that were near it were bulged, but those that were a bit more far away were not. I fully recapped this power supply in 2008 or so. This year, I finally tested those Fuhjyyu caps. The bulged caps obviously tested bad on ESR, but the non-bulged ones tested fine - that's nearly 4 years after they have been pulled out of that power supply. So Fuhjyyu is far from being the worst.

[RJARRRPCGP]

Re: Anything worse than GSC???

"Chhsi" seems to be as bad.

And 1000 uF+ Lelon is in a similar league.

[shovenose]

Re: Anything worse than GSC???

GSC/Sacon is the worst IMO. Fuhjyyu is a close second. Teapo is probably next.

Sacon FZ is a crappy crap by itself...

[Rulycat]

Re: Anything worse than GSC???

Sapcon are pretty bad.

[c_hegge]

Re: Anything worse than GSC???

GSC/Sacon is the worst IMO. Fuhjyyu is a close second. Teapo is probably next.

[tom66]

Re: Anything worse than GSC???

A failed GSC... Okay, CapXon... seriously, I've replaced more of those than any other capacitor in TVs and monitors. Rubbish!

[ratdude747]

Re: Anything worse than GSC???

Guys,

GSC, evercon, and sacon IIRC are one and the same.

[ratdude747]

Re: Anything worse than GSC???

Guys,

GSC, evercon, and sacon IIRC are one and the same.

[Hemingray]

Re: Anything worse than GSC???

fuhjyyu?

[Shocker]

Re: Anything worse than GSC???

Sacon is another name for GSC. I don't know about Canicon.

[Pentium4]

Re: Anything worse than GSC???

Maybe Canicon or Sacon...

[Shocker]

Maybe, somewhere, there's a capacitor brand that's even worse than GSC. In fact, I doubt there isn't. Any examples???