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    Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

    After being affected by the issue of bad caps in the last few weeks, myself, and after going through the numerous post here looking for in-depth info, I realized that there was a section missing, namely 'Good motherboards with good capacitors'.

    I am sure there are more people out there, just like me who want to upgrade soon with the latest gear, but still wonder which mo/bo has the better caps on the market. Not to say that it should be the main criteria for choosing a mo/bo, but it certainly would prepare future owners for any problems to come in the future.

    You can read about a billion reviews every months, but not one single review actually mentions the issue this website deals with.

    This kind of question has been raised on a case by case basis in these forums, but not as a separate thread or section. The information could be gathered in the form of a collective query in places such as other hardware review forums. And there are a few out there that seem very dedicated to pc hardware (HARDocp.com for instance).
    The reason being that most people reviewing pc hardware are hardly likely to mention this issue in their reviews, as they wouldn't want to be blacklisted by hardware manufacturers for actually tarnishing their reputations, which this shouldn't be about.

    Just like some other people here, I have decided not to buy Epox boards any more until I hear they are using better caps on their motherboards.
    Not to say that my epox product hasn't performed well, but rather because of their ignoring of the hardware issues that is clearly related to their products.

    Please, do not consider this a bad criticism, for I have I obtained a tremendous amount of advice from the these forums.

    Take care.

    #2
    Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

    ABIT's boards >$100 generally have Rubycon and Chemicon. Diamond Flower Industries' (DFI) Lanparty series have exclusively Chemicon. The worst Micro-Star Int'l (MSI) has used recently is Teapo which is one of the better Taiwanese brands.
    The great capacitor showdown!

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      #3
      Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

      most mfr's use what they can get at the lowest price.thats why you see rubycon on one batch of boards and ost the next.often high quality parts are simply unavailible due to demand that pushes the price up.motherboard makers have to compete with mfrs of non comodity items like medical stuff too.
      so a brand reported to be useing a good brand of parts last week may be now using stuff from the crap list.

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        #4
        Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

        You can read about a billion reviews every months, but not one single review actually mentions the issue this website deals with.
        thats incorrect, several review sites mention the capacitor brands they see. Its not that much use though when your board is different from the review model.

        better to inspect the board you want to buy in the shop. (another reason to support local stores rather than online shops)
        capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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          #5
          Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

          I am glad to see that this thing is taking shape, even if in a rough form.

          Asus and MSI were primary choices.
          However, I am glad to see DFI up there, since I read a very positive review on one of DFI's latest AMD mo/bo. Abit and DFI remain good choices, then, and MSI not to be disregarded even if the latter has a reputation for having lower quality Teapos.

          How does Asus do? Asus is said to be the cream of the crop of motherboards.
          And while some have suggested that even Asus had, on some instances, come up with poor mo/bo layout, are they top of notch as well when it comes to capacitors?

          Any info on Epox? Have they finally lived up to their mistakes yet?

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            #6
            Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

            All new Asus boards I have seen used good quality caps, "all" being the Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe

            Epox also seems to have learnt their lesson and reportedly now uses good caps...

            But as kc8adu said there is no sure way to know... Most mainboard manufacturers do not even change the pcb revision when they swap to a different model of caps... So it's really not easy to tell when buying stuff online...

            But it is still a fact that there have been no Athlon 64 mainboards reported yet on this site with bad caps...
            "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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              #7
              Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

              regarding msi, a few months ago i said :

              i checked out the new msi boards at comdex and they have rubycon, ucc, panasonic, ost, some polymers, teapo. a real mixed bag
              Asus was doing really well with the ASUS P5GDC-V DELUXE having ost caps for vcore which blew up in less than a year.

              dont forget Intel original boards which if you exclude the Nichicon HN problems have been reliable choices for good caps otherwise. the same applies to Dell also.

              one thing to watch out for is the caps which look like chemicon from a distance (being brown with mercedes vent) but are not.
              capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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                #8
                Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

                But it is still a fact that there have been no Athlon 64 mainboards reported yet on this site with bad caps...
                MSI gets the prize

                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1127
                capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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                  #9
                  Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

                  New asus boards seem to be doing well, chemicon and panasonic. DFI is only good on the lanparty side, the infinity and DAGF boards use crap.

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                    #10
                    Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

                    Originally posted by willawake
                    Also keep in mind how long the Athlon64's have been out... statistically they're not ready to be dying yet... I'm keeping an eye on my board at work, that's for sure.
                    Ludicrous gibs!

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                      #11
                      Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

                      The Chemicon look-alikes could be Samyoung (which apparently licensed the technology from Chemicon) or our favorite whipping boy in PSUs, Fuhjyyu.

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                        #12
                        Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

                        My Asrock (by Asus) K7VT4A Pro (runs CPU from +5.0V rail) has caps of varying quality:

                        1500uF, 6.3V United Chemicon (CPU voltage regulator)
                        3300uF, 6.3V OST RLX (near the Chemicons)
                        1000uF, 6.3V Ltec (all over)
                        100uF, 16V Teapo

                        The OSTs are rated for over twice the capacitance of the Chemicons but are only 25% bigger. Is this due to OST's use of more advanced technology, or is it from crappy quality?

                        Is Ltec OK? I believe it's Luminous Town, the company that hired a Rubycon scientist to make electrolyte for them and whose formula was later copied incorrectly and sold to other companies.

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                          #13
                          Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

                          Replace the OSTs and LTECs when you get around to re-capping it.

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                            #14
                            Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

                            My Gigabyte 7n400-L uses a mix of Nippon, Nichicon, and Sanyo. No failures since it was put into service May 25th, 2004, and it spent a lot of that time on 24/7 at 100% load.
                            Ludicrous gibs!

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                              #15
                              Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

                              Asus AK86 socket 754 mobo... uses all Rubycon caps. Happy to find this in my work machine when I opened it up today for a cleaning
                              Ludicrous gibs!

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                                #16
                                Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

                                It is best if you can visually check the caps before purchase. Generally over here, Asus, Gigabyte are more consistent in using Japanese caps. MSI is a mixed bag of both Japanese and Taiwanese stuff.

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                                  #17
                                  Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

                                  Intel of course. Always have aisde from the faulty Nichi PM/PN run but that was a temporary glitch.

                                  The only other boards I would look at are the high end Abits assuming they have cleaned up their act and Gigabyte. Their latest boards look pretty good with quality caps. Seems they are making a genuine effort.

                                  I have become prejudice against ASUS. Because our supplier ran out of Gigabytes, someone ordered 6 ASUS boards. I guess it doesn't help that they were low end stuff but at least 3 out of 6 caused us major headaches on new builds and were subsequently discarded. Never again!

                                  Don't know if it was mere coincidence, but I was recently called out to a job where the wireless mouse was doing squirly things. Basic tests revealed nothing obvious. The comp was brand new from a southern supplier. Tested the KB/Mouse and works fine on other PC. Looked inside and high end ASUS board!
                                  Last edited by Neo2_000; 01-24-2006, 08:43 AM.

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                                    #18
                                    Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

                                    Originally posted by krokett
                                    After being affected by the issue of bad caps in the last few weeks, myself, and after going through the numerous post here looking for in-depth info, I realized that there was a section missing, namely 'Good motherboards with good capacitors'.

                                    I am sure there are more people out there, just like me who want to upgrade soon with the latest gear, but still wonder which mo/bo has the better caps on the market. Not to say that it should be the main criteria for choosing a mo/bo, but it certainly would prepare future owners for any problems to come in the future.

                                    You can read about a billion reviews every months, but not one single review actually mentions the issue this website deals with.

                                    This kind of question has been raised on a case by case basis in these forums, but not as a separate thread or section. The information could be gathered in the form of a collective query in places such as other hardware review forums. And there are a few out there that seem very dedicated to pc hardware (HARDocp.com for instance).
                                    The reason being that most people reviewing pc hardware are hardly likely to mention this issue in their reviews, as they wouldn't want to be blacklisted by hardware manufacturers for actually tarnishing their reputations, which this shouldn't be about.

                                    Just like some other people here, I have decided not to buy Epox boards any more until I hear they are using better caps on their motherboards.
                                    Not to say that my epox product hasn't performed well, but rather because of their ignoring of the hardware issues that is clearly related to their products.

                                    Please, do not consider this a bad criticism, for I have I obtained a tremendous amount of advice from the these forums.

                                    Take care.
                                    I have emailed Steve or Kyle before regarding caps in the mainboard reviews, they will usually email you back with an answer.
                                    Ya'll think us folk from the country's real funny-like, dontcha?

                                    The opinions expressed above do not represent those of BADCAPS.NET or any of their affiliates.

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                                      #19
                                      Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

                                      Hardocp only points out a couple brands and not all the caps sometimes.

                                      The MSI P4N Diamond review for example, they state it uses Rubycon and Sanyo. I can visibly see Panasonic and what I think is Nichicon. I emailed the author pointing this out and never got a reply.

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                                        #20
                                        Re: Which motherboards have GOOD capacitors?

                                        I want to point out........GOOD capacitors not equal to GOOD motherboard........:
                                        My SAMXON Capacitors Database HERE!!

                                        X-CON is a new brand for SAMXON's Polymer Capacitors.

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