Dell being sued for bad caps on MB

[fa28]

Article in business section of NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/te...1&ref=business

Mentions Nichicon Caps as causing MB's to die. Sued because Dell replaced the bad caps with other known soon to be bad caps.

[linuxguru]

Re: Dell being sued for bad caps on MB

While the problem may initially have been faulty Nichicon HM/HN caps, there was also a design problem in SFF GX-series boxes with hot Prescott CPUs in close proximity to the VRM caps, insufficient airflow and high ripple-current. Virtually any cap, not just Nichicon HM/HN, would fail in such conditions.

[MD Willington]

Re: Dell being sued for bad caps on MB

While the problem may initially have been faulty Nichicon HM/HN caps, there was also a design problem in SFF GX-series boxes with hot Prescott CPUs in close proximity to the VRM caps, insufficient airflow and high ripple-current. Virtually any cap, not just Nichicon HM/HN, would fail in such conditions.

Have to agree, even the mid towers had that problem.

Look at the GX 270/280 as well, Dell put a low end fan on the Prescott, the heat sink/fan would whine like a jet engine, the fix was to put a "Gaming" heat sink and fan on the CPU and the problem went away.

[fety]

Re: Dell being sued for bad caps on MB

http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-feat...onent-cover-up

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http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-feat...documents-show

[Uranium-235]

Re: Dell being sued for bad caps on MB

funny I actually ran into this today (GX280). the fan did spin up. I put some crap paste on it and it actually seriously helped

[grss1982]

Re: Dell being sued for bad caps on MB

http://arstechnica.com/business/news...-computers.ars

Just saw read this article and the first ting that came to mind was visit this web site.

[myohmy]

Re: Dell being sued for bad caps on MB

http://arstechnica.com/business/news...-computers.ars

Just saw read this article and the first ting that came to mind was visit this web site.

me too. LOL! Heard about the Dell badcaps from our local computer show here on Maui and sure enough the online news was "read all about it!" I thought to log-in and see if any of you guys heard the news. Duh !! stupid question ...this being the BADCAPS forum and all. Rock on and Happy 4th of July to all.

[PCBONEZ]

Re: Dell being sued for bad caps on MB

funny I actually ran into this today (GX280). the fan did spin up. I put some crap paste on it and it actually seriously helped

I'm almost afraid to ask what "crap paste" is.
It's not a DIY paste is it?
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[PCBONEZ]

Re: Dell being sued for bad caps on MB

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[4tified]

Re: Dell being sued for bad caps on MB

The warranty on these machines just delay the inevitable. They will repair a motherboard just enough to render it functioning and only fix the obvious damage. 95% of the refurbished boards from SX270's/SX280's/GX620's will fail again, and this time it is the caps that they nglected to replace.

What's funny about this is some places (like where I work) have extended their warranties on the GX620's until the 1st quarter of next year, so this is the result:

1.) "Refurbished" motherboard goes bad again within a year, this time the caps that they original did not replace are the culprits.

2.) Supply falls short and our next day service turns into next month as Dell struggles to find replacement motherboards to send us.

Can't complain too much though. Dell's mistakes are what's paying my bills off. "Correctly" fixing these boards/reselling is the easiest 2nd job I can think of.