Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
I have no confidence that their controller can actually do lossless compression [of every kind of file] to factor of 10 to 20:1 at 100-200Mb/s
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They can claim it all they want - that doesn't make it true.
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The processor on your MOTHERBOARD would probably have trouble achieving that.
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[Unlike some of you what I'm smoking is perfectly legal.]
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PCBONEZ
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Last Activity: 02-26-2012, 10:02 AM
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Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
SSD tech in it's current form looks like band-aid piled on band-aid to me.
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Aren't you guys the same ones that piled off the PRM fan boy bandwagon to tell me I was full of shit when I said PRM is going suck?
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That was a couple years ago and lately I've had NUMEROUS opportunities to say "I told you so" over that one.
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I'm pretty confident this is going to go the same way.
In 2-3 years we will see.
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Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
You did pretty good up until you got the disk full.
~ Then you blew it.
The situation that pdf talks about is call Write Amplification.
It shows Write Amplification at a factor of 5.
Because many files are larger than one block it's actually larger than 5.
It can be anywhere between 10 and 20.
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So in 'real drives' that have been once through'ed
- that 4Gb DVD becomes somewhere between 40Gb and 80Gb.
[And that 20Gb a day you like becomes 200-400Gb/day.]
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[B]Those...Last edited by PCBONEZ; 02-26-2012, 09:04 AM.Leave a comment:
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Re: Question about 85c caps vs. 105c caps
Fasten a heatsink to a 60 watt bulb and turn it on for a half hour.
Do you think the heatsink will be hot to touch?
Same thing..
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4 degrees isn't going to matter much unless you are right at some limit.
Open cases get dirty inside. Dust bunnies.
If I wanted to get temp down I'd put a filtered fan in the side panel like I said before. [If that was in this thread...]
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Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
If what you are really after is performance for games or photo shop or whatever then you are better off setting up a system with a RAM drive.
[Meaning -not- the Flash memory type.]
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It's not going to start faster but once you are 'working' your transfer rates will be up in the Gb/s range.
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There are programs that will allow you to do that with the RAM slots on the motherboard.
Being as there are many chipsets that support 8Gb and more of RAM now days it should pretty easy.
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Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
#1, I didn't write it.
#2, It's correct.
Bull shit.
Part of what these leveling algorithms you keep bring up do is 'spread it around'.
The result is every block gets filled once and then after that every single write requires juggling a block every single time.
If you have a 64Gb that will be the case as soon as you've moved 64Gb through it.
You can't get around it.
That's how NAND type memory works.
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Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
Read through this.
[url]http://www.anandtech.com/show/2738/8[/url]
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Using that 'drive' as the example:
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If the drive has been 'once throughed' and all the blocks have some old pages then every 4k of write sent from the PC can easily become 20k of writing on the SSD.
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So lets say you copy a 4Gb DVD to your drive to make a few copies or maybe to watch a movie later.
Or maybe you download the latest version of some Linux distro to make an install DVD, and it's 4Gb.
It's entirely conceivable...Last edited by PCBONEZ; 02-25-2012, 09:54 AM.Leave a comment:
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Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
The 'loop hole' type warranty suggests they don't have a lot of confidence in that design.
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I don't either.
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Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
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[B]This is another outright lie.[/B]
I linked to the warranty and specs (from the horse's mouth) in the post just before that one.
[B]Intel does NOT warranty the things to some minimum speed.
They don't even -imply- they guarantee a minimum speed.[/B]
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It's one of those deliberate 'loop hole' warranties that Lawyers dream up.
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Intel's warranty on those only obligates them to meet 'advertised specs' for 5 years.
The specs say [B]"UP TO"[/B] whatever speed. [B]There is NO...Last edited by PCBONEZ; 02-25-2012, 07:24 AM.Leave a comment:
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Re: Question about 85c caps vs. 105c caps
A heatsink's job is to 'sink' (carry away) from the chip underneath it.
If the chip underneath it is hot then the heatsink should be hot.
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If the chip is hot and the heatsink isn't then you need to replace the thermal pad or paste because the heat isn't transferring.
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If the chip isn't hot then it's not under full load and the heatsink shouldn't be hot either.
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If you do a bit of web searching you should be able to fine the TDP (Total Design Power) of your video chip.
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Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
It's perfectly relevant. - Same series of drive.
Now lets look at what it really says:
And those specifications are here:
[url]https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/42872979dfb20672e03faebcea01b56c.pdf[/url]
And for every instance having to do with speed it says "Up to".
That means 0.00001 MB/s is fully in spec and they don't have to cover it.
~ Interesting how that works. - Ain't it...
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So enjoy your how ever many years of sub-ATA performance.
It's in spec...
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Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
Sure.
The link you posted directs right to it. - Thanks.
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And this guy can tell you what they are actually shipping. - B5 and K5.
It's right on Intel's site too.
[url]http://communities.intel.com/thread/26024?wapkw=320%20Series%20warranty[/url]
- Notice how Intel didn't address it... No activity on the page is a good way to keep it out of Google.
You didn't disprove anything.
I spoke the absolute truth.
What I said was when they are dead there is no hope...Last edited by PCBONEZ; 02-24-2012, 02:10 PM.Leave a comment:
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Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
If one should last a decade it will spend roughly the last 8 years of it at around 33-70MB/s.
Many worse than and none better than a good SATA disc drive.
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THAT is what the data CLEARLY shows for every one of the drives tested.
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The 5-yr LIMITED warranty on the Intel 320 is hiding. [Can't find it in writing.]
Word has it:
- It only applies to the full retail boxed version which carries a different PN than the others.
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Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
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I have a right to my opinion just like everyone else in here and if you don't happen to like my opinion that's your problem.
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I base my opinion on practical data and critical thinking, not advertising hype or baseless extensions of it.
And I don't feel a need to LIE about my own experiences to discredit someone else's opinion.
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Yes I read that page you linked to in post #15. - Long before you posted it too. - It's an extension of add hype.
My conclusion was those people are a pack...Last edited by PCBONEZ; 02-24-2012, 12:24 PM.Leave a comment:
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Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
I didn't do that, you did.
The information is all out there if you look.
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If you only look at info from the salesmen or at reviews that are supported by the drive manufacturer's advertising what do you think they're gonna say?
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If you look in similar places about Asus they are all going to say Asus is great too.
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Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
No you didn't.
You 'invented' and experience and that seems to be very common among those that tout the attributes of those things.
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You even admitted your bulk storage is on a file server and:
1: an SSD isn't going to help with that and that makes it slower than a local [real] hard drive.
2: if you weren't using an SSD you wouldn't HAVE to do that.
I'm not about to pay $125 for a drive that's only going to last 2-3 years.
- I don't care if anyone likes that or not.
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Re: Is it possible to determine flux type?
Coat it and then glue/silicon the part down so flux doesn't get under there in the first place.
- Just a thought...
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Re: Stupid Intel
Didn't read the note, did ya...
""IMPORTANT NOTICE: All information and software contained herein is provided "AS IS" to Intel customers.""
Intel doesn't guarantee Linux drivers will work.
They pretty much never do - for anything.
They also don't make and usually don't test them for non-Intel chips.
They just pass forward what the mfr [in this case SIS] gives them.
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Re: Anyone running SSD's yet?
Not even a year yet.
SSD Now V+100 64G was initially released in Nov 2010.
At the most they are 15 months old. (Not "a few years".)
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SSD are expected to last 2-3 years with 'average' use.
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Re: SATA 300/600 drives on a 150 storage controller
In a std PCI 32-bit slot you are limited to like 133MB/s on the BUS anyway [and that's shared] so there is no point in using RAID 0 or 10.
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