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  • claudyu07
    Claudyu07
    • May 2014
    • 164
    • Ireland

    #1

    Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

    hi guys. this is my first time when i try to touch tv for fix.
    i have experience with laptop / pc / xbox / ps3 but today my tv got broken and i want to try to fix it .
    Model number : LCD26761HDF
    As title describe the problem , is stuck on stand by.
    When i have opened , no visible broken capacitors or bleeding capacitors.
    I have tested PL816 for output and i got the following :
    ST_BY 2.1V
    +12V_1 - 3.5V
    +5v STBY - ok
    +3.3V STBY - ok
    +24v - 16v
    +12v - 4v
    +33v - 15v
    +3.3v - ok
    +5v - 2.1V
    +24V A - 16V
    +30V - 16V
    I would like to mention is also a clicking Noise every 1 second.

    PL802 connector to inverter i get aswell 16V insted of 24.

    When Motherboard is disconnected from power, clicking noise it's gone and all points that i have remarked few rows up are showing me proper voltages , only +30V show 24V

    Any help will be appreciated .

    POWER BOARD : 17PW26-1
    MOTHERBOARD : 17MB35-1

    Thanks
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

    Please start with this:
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • stj
      Great Sage 齊天大聖
      • Dec 2009
      • 30928
      • Albion

      #3
      Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

      unplug the power from the mainboard and meter resistance between each of those voltage-points and ground.

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      • Alastair E
        Chief Womble
        • Mar 2013
        • 1963
        • U.K.

        #4
        Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

        Ugh--VESTEL VOMIT!

        Check all the diodes on that '26.x PSU on the output side....
        TELEFIX

        How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
        http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
        PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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        • ReeceyBurger123
          Never Give Up !
          • May 2014
          • 7325
          • Britain

          #5
          Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

          Common fault with these boards is the diode that generates the 24v fails its labled d893 check that first.
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          • CapLeaker
            Leaking Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 7982
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

            Unplug everything on the PSU and force it on. Measure everything again.

            Here is a schematic for the PSU cording to SJ it should have.
            Attached Files
            Last edited by CapLeaker; 02-26-2015, 03:42 PM.

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            • claudyu07
              Claudyu07
              • May 2014
              • 164
              • Ireland

              #7
              Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

              Thank you all for your answers.
              first i will post pictures as budm suggested.
              second I have tryed to locate D893 but it's not on board and according to schematics from CapLeaker (Thanks) and it's not on schematics aswell.
              I will try force power on the board and make readings Again and then test resistance to ground from all those pins though i don't know what i should get.

              Thanks
              Attached Files
              Last edited by claudyu07; 02-27-2015, 05:22 AM. Reason: pics added

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              • ReeceyBurger123
                Never Give Up !
                • May 2014
                • 7325
                • Britain

                #8
                Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

                Originally posted by claudyu07
                Thank you all for your answers.
                first i will post pictures as budm suggested.
                second I have tryed to locate D893 but it's not on board and according to schematics from CapLeaker (Thanks) and it's not on schematics aswell.
                I will try force power on the board and make readings Again and then test resistance to ground from all those pins though i don't know what i should get.

                Thanks
                Sorry my bad, its different on the different models, its labled diode d881 check that.
                Last edited by ReeceyBurger123; 02-27-2015, 05:45 AM.
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                • CapLeaker
                  Leaking Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 7982
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

                  I couldn't find that D893 yesterday either.
                  Good idea to disconnect everything and forcing the PSU on. Seems like most of the voltages you measured are low. Maybe you want to check the battery in your DMM.

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                  • claudyu07
                    Claudyu07
                    • May 2014
                    • 164
                    • Ireland

                    #10
                    Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

                    Originally posted by CapLeaker
                    I couldn't find that D893 yesterday either.
                    Good idea to disconnect everything and forcing the PSU on. Seems like most of the voltages you measured are low. Maybe you want to check the battery in your DMM.
                    will do now. just doing research how to do it. i have to bridge +5V STBY with PS ON from what i saw on different threads but it's not any PS ON on my board.
                    I will remove now D881 and test it

                    Battery on DMM is grand .
                    Last edited by claudyu07; 02-27-2015, 05:52 AM.

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

                      If it's not D881, then Q844, on the primary, will sometimes fail leaky. When this fails, the output voltages will bounce around. In my case it had about 300 ohms between collector, emitter and base.
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • ReeceyBurger123
                        Never Give Up !
                        • May 2014
                        • 7325
                        • Britain

                        #12
                        Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

                        Originally posted by CapLeaker
                        I couldn't find that D893 yesterday either.
                        Good idea to disconnect everything and forcing the PSU on. Seems like most of the voltages you measured are low. Maybe you want to check the battery in your DMM.
                        Its d881 my notes were for the 17pw26-4 that I think its labelled different, if not check the primary transistors they sometimes fail and cause messed up voltages.
                        Last edited by ReeceyBurger123; 02-27-2015, 05:54 AM.
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                        • claudyu07
                          Claudyu07
                          • May 2014
                          • 164
                          • Ireland

                          #13
                          Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

                          d881 ok. 400 reading on my dmm. wil check now q844 and primary transistors


                          Q844 is gone. will find replacement and post back if fixed. Thanks you
                          Last edited by claudyu07; 02-27-2015, 06:30 AM.

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                          • ReeceyBurger123
                            Never Give Up !
                            • May 2014
                            • 7325
                            • Britain

                            #14
                            Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

                            Originally posted by claudyu07
                            d881 ok. 400 reading on my dmm. wil check now q844 and primary transistors


                            Q844 is gone. will find replacement and post back if fixed. Thanks you
                            Good to hear, hopefully bring that tv back to life also I would advise you replace the gluxon brand capacitors as they probably will fail shortly and bring the set down again.
                            When I get home I will take a photo of a 17pw26-4 I recapped.
                            Last edited by ReeceyBurger123; 02-27-2015, 07:07 AM.
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                            • claudyu07
                              Claudyu07
                              • May 2014
                              • 164
                              • Ireland

                              #15
                              Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

                              Q844 replaced . still same problem.

                              Test the board again for output voltages on PL816 and all voltages are correct except pin 27 which supposed to be 30V but is only 24V
                              Last edited by claudyu07; 03-02-2015, 05:11 AM.

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                              • ReeceyBurger123
                                Never Give Up !
                                • May 2014
                                • 7325
                                • Britain

                                #16
                                Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

                                Originally posted by claudyu07
                                Q844 replaced . still same problem.

                                Test the board again for output voltages on PL816 and all voltages are correct except pin 27 which supposed to be 30V but is only 24V
                                Have you checked the diode behind it ?
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                                • CapLeaker
                                  Leaking Member
                                  • Dec 2014
                                  • 7982
                                  • Canada

                                  #17
                                  Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

                                  what about R1017? D881 and the caps after that?

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                                  • ReeceyBurger123
                                    Never Give Up !
                                    • May 2014
                                    • 7325
                                    • Britain

                                    #18
                                    Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

                                    Can you take some close up photos of the psu, the parts you replaced.
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                                    • claudyu07
                                      Claudyu07
                                      • May 2014
                                      • 164
                                      • Ireland

                                      #19
                                      Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

                                      d881 OK . R1007 looks like missing???
                                      Capacitors after D881 ok
                                      Attached Files

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                                      • ReeceyBurger123
                                        Never Give Up !
                                        • May 2014
                                        • 7325
                                        • Britain

                                        #20
                                        Re: Acoustic Solutions TV - Stuck on Standby

                                        Originally posted by claudyu07
                                        d881 OK . R1007 looks like missing???
                                        Capacitors after D881 ok
                                        And you check the smd diodes behind the part you replaced, forgot to mention they are on the underside of the board right next to the leads of the part you replaced.
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