Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

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  • Michale32086
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    #21
    Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

    Yea, should have clarified that..

    That's what I get when I plug the TV in.. Pushing the power button has no effect.. Still reads 166v

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    • nomoresonys
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      #22
      Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

      Originally posted by Michale32086
      Yea, should have clarified that..

      That's what I get when I plug the TV in.. Pushing the power button has no effect.. Still reads 166v
      I think when its working right its suppose to jump to 390 or so.

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      • nomoresonys
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        #23
        Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

        wonder if this could be a bridge rectifier issue?

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        • tom66
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          • Apr 2011
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          #24
          Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

          Yes, since this PSU uses Active PFC, the cap voltage will boost (typically to 380-400V)
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          • Michale32086
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            #25
            Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

            I seem to remember a problem before similar to this where the MainBoard was the culprit..

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            • nomoresonys
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              #26
              Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

              maybe try unplug the connector from power supply that has stndby, and measure the stndby pin on power supply in dc mode.

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              • Michale32086
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                #27
                Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

                Originally posted by nomoresonys
                maybe try unplug the connector from power supply that has stndby, and measure the stndby pin on power supply in dc mode.
                The only standby I could find was 3.3v

                Checked the marked pin and it did give me 3.3v at plug in
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                • nomoresonys
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                  #28
                  Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

                  thats good, are your other voltages correct too?

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                  • tom66
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                    #29
                    Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

                    You can usually check power supply operation by connecting STBY and POWER ON with a small resistor (100 to 470 ohms, 1/4W through hole type)
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                    • Michale32086
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                      #30
                      Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

                      The pins outlined in red have 3.3v

                      All the other pins (black) have 0v
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                      • nomoresonys
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                        #31
                        Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

                        Originally posted by Michale32086
                        The pins outlined in red have 3.3v

                        All the other pins (black) have 0v
                        ok, now is that with all the boards plugged in?

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                        • Michale32086
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                          #32
                          Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

                          Originally posted by nomoresonys
                          ok, now is that with all the boards plugged in?
                          It was out.. But here are the voltages with the connector plugged in..

                          All the unmarked pins are 0v
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                          Last edited by Michale32086; 02-09-2015, 09:25 AM.

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                          • Michale32086
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                            #33
                            Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

                            Originally posted by tom66
                            You can usually check power supply operation by connecting STBY and POWER ON with a small resistor (100 to 470 ohms, 1/4W through hole type)
                            Lemme see if I can dig up a resistor..

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                            • nomoresonys
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                              #34
                              Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

                              dunno, it seems like the mainboard isnt turning on the power supply.

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                              • Michale32086
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                                #35
                                Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

                                Yea, Tom's idea might shed light on that. But it will have to wait til I get to the shop.. I have no resistors here at home..

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                                • budm
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                                  #36
                                  Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

                                  "The only standby I could find was 3.3v

                                  Checked the marked pin and it did give me 3.3v at plug in"
                                  So you are saying that there was no Voltage what so ever when all the boards are connected, and now you do have 3.3VSTBY when the cables are disconnected from the power supply board.
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                                  • Michale32086
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                                    #37
                                    Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

                                    Checking all the pins with the cable connected gives me the 3.3v on standby.. I am guessing when I checked them before I wasn't making contact with the pin, as I was just using the probe tip..

                                    This time around, I used a straight pin hooked to the probe to insure contact...

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                                    • CapLeaker
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                                      #38
                                      Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

                                      sounds like the main board isn't turning on the power supply.

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                                      • Michale32086
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                                        #39
                                        Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

                                        Yea, that's my thinking. I am going to run to the shop. I'll being home some resistors and test it with Tom's idea...

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                                        • Michale32086
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                                          #40
                                          Re: Dead As A Doornail. Sony KDL-40EX400

                                          BadCaps was down all morning!! Started getting the DTs

                                          OK, the closest resistor I have is a 500ohm... Too big??

                                          And I unplug the connector from the main board side and put the resistor on the connector at the marked pins...

                                          Good Ta Go??
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