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  • Agent24
    I see dead caps
    • Oct 2007
    • 4913
    • New Zealand

    #61
    Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

    Originally posted by lookimback
    I call them Whyphones, because when one of my friends tells me they just got one, I just stare at them dumbfounded and say "Why?"
    And I'm guessing they just say: "Because it's an iPhone"
    "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
    -David VanHorn

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    • lookimback
      Badcaps Legend
      • Aug 2013
      • 1489
      • USA

      #62
      Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

      Because they are sheep is the correct answer.
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      • lookimback
        Badcaps Legend
        • Aug 2013
        • 1489
        • USA

        #63
        Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

        Well, it took me a while but I finally have my first scope, on order anyway. Got the Rigol 1054Z from Tequipment.net tonight. I remember looking at $30,000+ scopes 30 years ago which couldn't do 10 percent of what a $400 one can do today. The advancements in technology in one person's lifetime are nothing short of amazing. I think this is going to be a game changer for me.
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        • stj
          Great Sage 齊天大聖
          • Dec 2009
          • 30919
          • Albion

          #64
          Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

          i have a keygen if you want to make the trial options full or make it 100mhz

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          • lookimback
            Badcaps Legend
            • Aug 2013
            • 1489
            • USA

            #65
            Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

            Originally posted by stj
            i have a keygen if you want to make the trial options full or make it 100mhz
            That's why I went with this one. I'll definitely appreciate that keygen.
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            • diif
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2014
              • 6978
              • England

              #66
              Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

              iPhones are no more or less fragile or expensive than other top end phones. They are also more secure.

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              • stj
                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                • Dec 2009
                • 30919
                • Albion

                #67
                Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

                Originally posted by lookimback
                That's why I went with this one. I'll definitely appreciate that keygen.
                keygen.
                use the code "DSER"
                Attached Files

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                • stj
                  Great Sage 齊天大聖
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 30919
                  • Albion

                  #68
                  Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

                  Originally posted by diif
                  iPhones are no more or less fragile or expensive than other top end phones. They are also more secure.
                  secure from who? the user or governments?

                  i want devices that recognise me as the "owner", not the "user"

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                  • diif
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 6978
                    • England

                    #69
                    Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

                    Originally posted by stj
                    secure from who? the user or governments?

                    i want devices that recognise me as the "owner", not the "user"
                    From the government and from Apple. Even they can't get into their users phone.

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #70
                      Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

                      Originally posted by lookimback
                      That's why I went with this one. I'll definitely appreciate that keygen.
                      Best site is RIGLOL
                      http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/

                      Try to avoid installing 500uV/div option as it's uncalibrated. Doesn't do any harm but you can't really use it.

                      For DS1xxxZ it will fill in private key automatically, as all scopes use the same key.

                      These are amazing instruments, even more so considering the price, good choice!
                      Last edited by tom66; 11-01-2015, 06:04 AM.
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • stj
                        Great Sage 齊天大聖
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 30919
                        • Albion

                        #71
                        Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

                        the keygen i posted is the code running that site,
                        and DSER will skip the 500uV option.

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                        • lookimback
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                          • Aug 2013
                          • 1489
                          • USA

                          #72
                          Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

                          Thank you STJ!
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                          • lookimback
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                            • Aug 2013
                            • 1489
                            • USA

                            #73
                            Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

                            I definitely appreciate everybody's input on this thread. I would have had no clue what to get and probably would have ended up getting and old scope off eBay which couldn't do half what this one can, and for probably about the same price.
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                            • lookimback
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 1489
                              • USA

                              #74
                              Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

                              So, I'm figuring I should get an isolation transformer so I don't accidentally blow up my scope. Any suggestions there?
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                              • stj
                                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 30919
                                • Albion

                                #75
                                Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

                                depends on the power requirements of what your testing

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                                • Agent24
                                  I see dead caps
                                  • Oct 2007
                                  • 4913
                                  • New Zealand

                                  #76
                                  Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

                                  Make sure it does isolate. IIRC some tie the grounds(?) together and thus don't actually isolate completely.
                                  "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                                  -David VanHorn

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                                  • lookimback
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Aug 2013
                                    • 1489
                                    • USA

                                    #77
                                    Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

                                    Originally posted by stj
                                    depends on the power requirements of what your testing
                                    TV repair mainly. Mainly LCD, but occasionally plasma too. I don't think I've ever encountered anything with more than an 8 amp fuse, so maybe a 10 amp isolation transformer?
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                                    • lookimback
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Aug 2013
                                      • 1489
                                      • USA

                                      #78
                                      Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

                                      Originally posted by Agent24
                                      Make sure it does isolate. IIRC some tie the grounds(?) together and thus don't actually isolate completely.
                                      I noticed that in Dave Jones' video on EEVBlog.
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                                      • tom66
                                        EVs Rule
                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 32560
                                        • UK

                                        #79
                                        Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

                                        Originally posted by lookimback
                                        So, I'm figuring I should get an isolation transformer so I don't accidentally blow up my scope. Any suggestions there?
                                        It depends entirely on what you are probing.

                                        **You always isolate the device under test (DUT), never isolate the scope.**

                                        The reason is the scope has exposed metal components like the jacks, USB ports, etc. If you float the scope then the ground lead of your scope is also electrically connected to these parts which can present an electrocution hazard.

                                        For the transformer, generally you want to size it on VA. Most good transformers include thermal cut off switches so if you overload them the switch trips. They can take short term overloads without issue, usually. Don't do this too often but the bottom line is I wouldn't worry too much about it.

                                        I would use a 250VA transformer for all LCD work, and a 500VA one if I were doing plasma TVs as the full white power of an older plasma TV is likely to be around 450W. For high power devices with power-factor correction, which includes most modern LCD and plasma TVs, the PF=0.999 or better, so you can assume VA and watts are identical.
                                        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                        • lookimback
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                                          • Aug 2013
                                          • 1489
                                          • USA

                                          #80
                                          Re: What frequency limit I should plan for when choosing oscilloscope for TV repair?

                                          I'm really tempted to build my own. I'm looking at a lot of them on eBay, they don't seem really expensive, but building things is so much more fun. Maybe I could make an isolated variac. What's the significance with the medical grade ones?

                                          Maybe with something like this.
                                          http://www.ebay.com/itm/800VA-115V-2...IAAMXQVT9TCQ-D
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