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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
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    #41
    Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

    Did you replace all four diodes?
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    • TimT
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      • Nov 2012
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      #42
      Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

      I just replaced the two.. but I can go ahead and replace the other 2 also

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
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        #43
        Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

        It would be a good idea, also be very careful to get them in the same way they came out.
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        • TimT
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          • Nov 2012
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          #44
          Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

          I just replace the rest still blowing a fuse. I will buy a new power board! this has been a learning experence and I want to thank everyone for helping!

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          • Dgtech
            E. Technician
            • Apr 2009
            • 1462
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            #45
            Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

            I just read over this thread from start to end and all that you've tested so far was the diodes. Has anyone found a schematic on this set??? Is there a possible shorted FET? I'm sure theres a way to find the faulty component that's blowing this fuse? These problems are usually the easiest to find and cheapest to fix.
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            • Dgtech
              E. Technician
              • Apr 2009
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              #46
              Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

              Here, I did you a little legwork. Pull the first transformer (L1501) out of the circuit and see if your short is still there by checking ohms across from fuse (both sides) to ground. Here is a schematic of this primary side of your power supply.
              Attached Files
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              • selldoor
                Slow Learner
                • Dec 2010
                • 7870

                #47
                Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

                I gave up on it because the pictures are so bad they hurt my eyes- chance of spotting anything is almost zero and there are none of the backs
                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                • Dgtech
                  E. Technician
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1462
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                  #48
                  Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

                  Better yet, I'll go as far as to just say, CHANGE SA1601 and SA1602. If you just pull these parts out I'll bet you that one of them is shorted.

                  This item is listed on the parts sheet as:

                  SA1601# SURGE ABSORBER 470V+-10PER



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                  Last edited by Dgtech; 12-14-2012, 04:59 PM.
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                  • Mark369
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 163

                    #49
                    Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

                    so becasue SA1601 is on the same line as R1609 you cant test it onboard.
                    is this right?

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                    • TimT
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                      • Nov 2012
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                      #50
                      Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

                      I may pull these tonight or in the morning! Thank you!!

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                      • Mark369
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 163

                        #51
                        Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

                        Originally posted by Dgtech
                        Here, I did you a little legwork. Pull the first transformer (L1501) out of the circuit and see if your short is still there by checking ohms across from fuse (both sides) to ground. Here is a schematic of this primary side of your power supply.
                        do you mean L1601 I don't know where L1501 is.

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                        • Dgtech
                          E. Technician
                          • Apr 2009
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                          #52
                          Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

                          You are correct, L1601, i read wrong. Look at my notes on the schematic below.
                          ALWAYS CHECK OHMS WITH THE POWER OFF.
                          Attached Files
                          Last edited by Dgtech; 12-15-2012, 05:00 AM.
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                          • Dgtech
                            E. Technician
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 1462
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                            #53
                            Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

                            Here is another way to look at it from your point of view.
                            Attached Files
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                            • TimT
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                              • Nov 2012
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                              #54
                              Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

                              I pulled 1601 and 1602 showing 00.2 ohms on both. did i need to test something on the board with these removed?

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                              • Dgtech
                                E. Technician
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 1462
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                                #55
                                Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

                                Originally posted by TimT
                                I pulled 1601 and 1602 showing 00.2 ohms on both. did i need to test something on the board with these removed?
                                The measuring of the transformer is not going to be accurate for now. Read the ohms across R1609.
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                                • TimT
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                                  • Nov 2012
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                                  #56
                                  Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

                                  R1609 is 0 no reading at all on meter. tested other resistors of same type tested good. pulled C1602 dead 0 on meter. wanted to make sure i was testing the cap correct. tested on new cap. new cap test ok! so bad cap and resistor?

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                                  • Mark369
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Jul 2009
                                    • 163

                                    #57
                                    Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

                                    so i would think c1602 and r1609 is bad.
                                    what setting did you have your meter on. 20M, 200K, 20K, 200?
                                    and when you measured they were out of the board right. you tested in both directions?

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                                    • TimT
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                                      • Nov 2012
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                                      #58
                                      Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

                                      the meter was set to 200. I measured the resistor on the board the capacitor out of the board.

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                                      • tom66
                                        EVs Rule
                                        • Apr 2011
                                        • 32560
                                        • UK

                                        #59
                                        Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

                                        200 - "horseshoe" or 200 - V?
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                                        • TimT
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                                          #60
                                          Re: phillips lcd keeps blowing fuse

                                          horseshoe

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