32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

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  • Loozer
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
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    #1

    32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

    So i just replaced a bad regulator on a Vizio i have. It powered on with backlight but no sound or no image whatsoever. Also it couldnt be turned off once turned on unless you unplug the power cable. Well I recieved and new regulator and replaced it and when i turned it on i had an image of (channel 37) and some vertical blue lines on the screen. It also turned off from the side inputs which was good but when i check the voltages on the new regulator the adjust pin reads .01 V. I know this is wrong and there is a few resistors that i dont think i touched but maybe its possible i unsoldered one because one of them reads 2.02 V and the other reads nothing. Not sure because i didnt test them before (stupid) Now its back to the old symptoms tho and i get no picture/wont turn off. My question is can i adjust the last pin back up around 1-2 V where it should be or did i blow this new regulator already? Any help would be appreciated thank you.
    Last edited by Loozer; 11-30-2012, 03:36 PM.
  • selldoor
    Slow Learner
    • Dec 2010
    • 7870

    #2
    Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

    You should test the resistors off board meter on ohms scale to cover the expected result. Do you mean new regulator in the last sentence - perhaps edit it.


    This might help
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...2&postcount=80
    Last edited by selldoor; 11-30-2012, 03:27 PM.
    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

      Voltage from OUT to ADJ should be 1.25V.
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • Loozer
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
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        #4
        Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

        Thanks.
        u33 reads:
        Yes pin 1 reads 5.07 and pin 2 reads 2.02. Pin 3 is reading .01
        which would mean its bad right. I checked U7 too which is connected to U33(the one i replaced)
        u7 reads:
        pin 1- 2.01 pin 2 - .97 pin 3 - .02

        i will check the resistors tonight when i get off work. But appreciate anything you can add to help.

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        • Loozer
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
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          #5
          Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

          Originally posted by selldoor
          You should test the resistors off board meter on ohms scale to cover the expected result.
          This might help
          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...2&postcount=80


          Now one more time? Do what?

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          • Loozer
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
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            #6
            Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

            My question is can you manually adjust the 3rd pin on U33? i know the voltage is wrong but i literally just got it in the mail today. If not im just goin to order 2 new regulators and replace both U33 and U7 and hope for the best.

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            • Loozer
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
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              #7
              Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

              Originally posted by tom66
              Voltage from OUT to ADJ should be 1.25V.
              i know thats what it should be. The new regulator however is reading the same as the old one. Im wondering if you can adjust it or if it sounds to you like its just another faulty regulator. Thanks again tom

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

                The voltage on pin out looks confused: It looks like you count it as, with big tab up, pin1 as the right most pin.
                I look at it this way:
                If we are looking at the regulator with the Big tab up (the big tab is tied internally to the center pin).
                Adjustable regulator will have two resistors attached to it, one resistor (Rfb) is between pin1 and pin2, another resistor (Rg) is between pin1 and ground. Pin3 is an input pin.
                The voltage between the Adjust pin (left pin) and the center pin (Pin2, output) will always be 1.25V +/- 2% (this is the precision voltage reference), if it is not, it is bad.
                To figure out what the output voltage should be: measure the voltage between pin 1 and ground and add 1.25V to that number, that is the output voltage on pin 2 but you have to make sure you do have 1.25 between pin 1 and 2 as noted above
                What is the model of this VIZIO?
                Attached Files
                Last edited by budm; 12-01-2012, 12:50 AM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • Loozer
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 84
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                  #9
                  Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

                  Yeah both regulators are bad then. Ill just buy like 10 this time in case i run into this problem again. They were only 50 cent each.

                  Model No: VX32L HDTV10A

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

                    You may have damage the resistors or thy came off during de-soldering. Do you have good clear pictures of these two regulators.
                    I just upload the calculator for the LDO in post 8
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

                      I look at SHOPJIMMY and see that both regulators have two resistor close by. Do you know what the output voltage should be? I can try searching the forum for U7, U33 but that may take times.
                      If the resistors are still there, you can give me the value then I tell if they are correct or not using my calculator.
                      Follow-up: I found the value:
                      U33 = 3.3v
                      U7 = 1.25V
                      Last edited by budm; 12-01-2012, 01:16 AM. Reason: Added more info.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

                        Originally posted by Loozer
                        Thanks.
                        u33 reads:
                        Yes pin 1 reads 5.07 and pin 2 reads 2.02. Pin 3 is reading .01
                        which would mean its bad right. I checked U7 too which is connected to U33(the one i replaced)
                        u7 reads:
                        pin 1- 2.01 pin 2 - .97 pin 3 - .02

                        i will check the resistors tonight when i get off work. But appreciate anything you can add to help.
                        So from the reading above, the U7 is reading wrong because U33 output is too low for the U7 to work. So we just need to fix U33 section.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • Loozer
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 84
                          • US

                          #13
                          Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

                          yeah i only have a pic of from before until tomorrow.

                          alright i set the multimeter to 2000 ohms and:

                          R30 read: 354

                          R32 read: 1 (thats what it reads when not even connected to anything, So looks like this is bad or damaged)

                          CB21 actually made the meter dim out and displayed nothing. Not sure what that means

                          I may be looking for a new board as it looks. I may have burned something when taking out the original. It doesnt look pretty
                          Attached Files

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

                            Which one of the resistor has one end connected to ground?
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

                              I search the forum and it looks like R30 is connected between the ADJ pin and Ground, the R32 is connected between the ADJ pin and the Output pin. So you must have solder bridge between ADJ and the output pin.
                              Attached Files
                              Last edited by budm; 12-01-2012, 01:53 AM.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • Loozer
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 84
                                • US

                                #16
                                Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

                                Alright i didnt realize there were 2 readings for them.

                                R30: Top of pin(in pic) 354
                                bottom 6

                                R32 top: 351
                                bottom: 1

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                                • Loozer
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Nov 2012
                                  • 84
                                  • US

                                  #17
                                  Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

                                  Solder bridge? So should i desolder and solder again with a smaller bead?

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

                                    What do you mean by bottom 6 and bottom 1?
                                    Is the reading across R30 = 354 Ohms
                                    and the reading across R32 = 351 Ohms?
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • Loozer
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Nov 2012
                                      • 84
                                      • US

                                      #19
                                      Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

                                      yes I dont know when i touch the top(in pic) or piece closest to regulators they read 354 ohms and 351 ohms. on the opposite side one doesnt read anything and one reads 6. (on 2000 ohms setting) its very possible that there may be a solder bridge tho. im not the most precise yet haha

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: 32" Vizio Fixed Regulator. How do I/Can I adjust

                                        I think you should remove U33, then take the resistance reading across each resistors for me.
                                        It is 12'O clock, so I am going to bed. We will continue tomorrow evening, good night.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                        Comment

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