Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

    The part that failed is the MOSFET, the cap is OK. I think Tom is asking for the P/N of that MOSFET.
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    • drpj23
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      • May 2012
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      #22
      Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

      Oh ok, I had mentioned the p/n of the mosfet in an earlier post so that's why I put that.....I was confused lol.
      But 11N60C3

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
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        #23
        Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

        You can get it from Mouser:
        http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....eyword=11N60C3

        Or Digikey.
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        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • drpj23
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          • May 2012
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          #24
          Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

          Alright cool. I'll prob stay with Digikey.
          Thanks for the help.
          I'll order those and tell you the results.....actually I just found a board in my "trash" pile that has those (proview p/s). I'll test those out and try em.

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          • drpj23
            Badcaps Veteran
            • May 2012
            • 528
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            #25
            Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

            Well my eyes tricked me and they are 11N80C3 but I was wondering if that would work maybe? or at least temporarily to see if that was a problem.
            11N60C3 is VDS 650V RDS .38 ohms ID 11A
            11N80C3 is VDS 800v RDS .45 ohms ID 11A

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            • multimeter
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Jan 2011
              • 739
              • united kingdom

              #26
              Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

              Originally posted by drpj23
              Well my eyes tricked me and they are 11N80C3 but I was wondering if that would work maybe? or at least temporarily to see if that was a problem.
              11N60C3 is VDS 650V RDS .38 ohms ID 11A
              11N80C3 is VDS 800v RDS .45 ohms ID 11A
              the 80c3 will be fine ,as long as the lead spacings are the same
              fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

              ----------------------------------------------
              please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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              • ben7
                Capaholic
                • Jan 2011
                • 4059
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                Dont go with lower D-S voltage, or else they might fail in the near future.
                Muh-soggy-knee

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                • drpj23
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • May 2012
                  • 528
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                  Well the power supply stopped blowing the fuse
                  ...but the TV now wont come on but at least there is a red stand by light.

                  Well I am about to open it up so I'll be back and if anyone knows specific things to look for that would be great.

                  Oh and thanks for all the info and help...this will def help with the Philips power supply I have....which also keeps blowing the fuse

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                    OK, at least now the 5v standby power supply is getting the power.
                    Next we need to find out if the PFC circuits is working or not, check the DC voltage on that big DC filter cap in the primary circuits when the TV is OFF and when you turn on the power switch.
                    It should be about 170vdc when TV is off and about 400vdc when TV is on.
                    Last edited by budm; 06-21-2012, 03:58 PM.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #30
                      Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                      I would check the PSU output voltages. If they are low, the problem is probably with the PFC voltage being too low.
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • drpj23
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • May 2012
                        • 528
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                        Alright, The tv will turn "on" for about a few seconds but the standby light just turns off when this happens instead of changing colors. There are 4 red wires, 4 black (ground), and a purple and brown (standby).

                        Standby:
                        There is only a quarter of a volt on the red and 161.6v on the cap

                        On:
                        The voltage on the red wires do not change but there is 5v on the purple wire.
                        The cap had 386v

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                        • ecking767
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                          • Oct 2009
                          • 492
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                          Originally posted by drpj23
                          Well the power supply stopped blowing the fuse
                          ...but the TV now wont come on but at least there is a red stand by light.

                          Well I am about to open it up so I'll be back and if anyone knows specific things to look for that would be great.

                          Oh and thanks for all the info and help...this will def help with the Philips power supply I have....which also keeps blowing the fuse
                          Hey drpj23, I have done work before on FLM-2601 power supply and I found the schematic for the power supply. I know this will help you. If you need this file in PDF format let me know

                          ecking767
                          Attached Files

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                            OK the PFC circuit is working (the voltage on the main cap jumps to 386V) and so as the PS_ON signal. So next thing you need to find out if the 24Vdc output is working.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • drpj23
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • May 2012
                              • 528
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                              Ok, I couldn't get anything when it was cutting on and off by the button.
                              So to jumper it would pins 1 and 2 need to be connected? Just want to make sure.

                              And thanks ecking767 for the schematic, a pdf would be great.

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #35
                                Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                                Yes, jump 1 and 2 will force the power supply to stay on. The diagram makes it so much easier to troubleshoot. But just to be sure you should trace out the connections on the connector to make sure it matches the diagram, just in case.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • tom66
                                  EVs Rule
                                  • Apr 2011
                                  • 32560
                                  • UK

                                  #36
                                  Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                                  It looks like the standby supply generates the power for the PFC when it is started up. Does the 386V remain reasonably constant or does it drop off? The Vcc for the controller is derived separately.
                                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                                    Please see the attachment explaining how it works.
                                    Attached Files
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • drpj23
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • May 2012
                                      • 528
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                                      Ok, the voltage on the cap remains constant but I have no 24vdc at all.

                                      And wow, I feel like I know nothing after reading that lol.

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                                        OK , we now need to look at the SMPS IC and MOFET, but can you tell me which MOSFET you replaced as shown in the Diagram?
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        • drpj23
                                          Badcaps Veteran
                                          • May 2012
                                          • 528
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                                          I replaced V906 and V907. The V907 is the one after the SMPS IC and I replaced it with a 80C instead of 60C.

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