Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

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  • drpj23
    Badcaps Veteran
    • May 2012
    • 528
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    #61
    Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

    Well replaced the diode, and same results as before.

    Do have standby light and 5v STBY but no main output (.25v).

    Tries to cut on but reverts back to standby

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #62
      Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

      So what resistance reading do you get between Source and Gate now, it was really low last time with the shorted Diode, it should be around 4.7K.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • drpj23
        Badcaps Veteran
        • May 2012
        • 528
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        #63
        Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

        Yep, 4.69kohm

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #64
          Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

          Well, I think the SMPS IC will be the next thing to try.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • drpj23
            Badcaps Veteran
            • May 2012
            • 528
            • USA

            #65
            Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

            Could you perhaps guide me on doing that?

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #66
              Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

              You will need to get that SMPS IC NCP1207 as I post the spec sheet on post 46.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • drpj23
                Badcaps Veteran
                • May 2012
                • 528
                • USA

                #67
                Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                Alright, I'll let you know when it's in.

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                • drpj23
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • May 2012
                  • 528
                  • USA

                  #68
                  Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                  Ok so parts came in....as I began to de-solder....I noticed I never soldered back down pin 5 ......so I feel very special right now.

                  Anyways, life is back in the TV except for one problem, the backlights are flickering on and off. The 24v rail is there but is jumping around 21-23v

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #69
                    Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                    Great, I was so worry that the new IC will not fix the problem.
                    Is the DC voltage on the large DC filter cap (250~450vdc) also fluctuating?
                    I worked on Insignia last month after replacing the secondary power supply caps, turn it on and the backligts were flickering, I jump the main DC filter cap with another cap, the flickering stops. The ESR of the bad cap was 3 Ohms, but enough to cuase problem.
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/albums/y...cpZZ1QQtppZZ20
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • drpj23
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • May 2012
                      • 528
                      • USA

                      #70
                      Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                      Yes it is also fluctuating between 380 and 400.

                      The main cap had .3ohm. But to rule that out, I put another chemicon cap in with no change.

                      I have replaced all the caps (except one I missed (47uf 25v) since it was in heat shrink.) but I put one with .1ohm to replace it (I had sitting around). There was also a resistor beside the main cap that read half of what it should have been and replaced that as well but there is still no change.

                      I should also mention that the p/s is squealing too.

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                      • drpj23
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • May 2012
                        • 528
                        • USA

                        #71
                        Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                        Without a load, it tests steady on the cap and output and there is slight hum from the transformer.

                        Well for kicks (I had replaced the 11N80s with new 11N60s) I put back the 80s and put it back in the TV and well the fuse blew.

                        So took those back out (tested fine) and put the 60s back in. Put back in the TV and we have same symptoms as before post fuse.
                        The diode is still ok and resistance is still there, plugged back up without a load and it tests OK; steady 23.55V and 380 on cap.
                        Resistor I replaced is actually OK, was just coming up weird due to bad connection.
                        This is where I am at.

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                        • ben7
                          Capaholic
                          • Jan 2011
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                          #72
                          Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                          Originally posted by drpj23
                          Without a load, it tests steady on the cap and output and there is slight hum from the transformer.

                          Well for kicks (I had replaced the 11N80s with new 11N60s) I put back the 80s and put it back in the TV and well the fuse blew.

                          So took those back out (tested fine) and put the 60s back in. Put back in the TV and we have same symptoms as before post fuse.
                          The diode is still ok and resistance is still there, plugged back up without a load and it tests OK; steady 23.55V and 380 on cap.
                          Resistor I replaced is actually OK, was just coming up weird due to bad connection.
                          This is where I am at.
                          Were the 11N80s short circuited?

                          Have you checked the secondary rectifiers?

                          I see that you took the heatsinks off the PSU. When you test it, be sure to put them back on (if you haven't), and be SURE the correct MOSFETs and diodes are insulated from the heatsinks!

                          Have you checked the snubber diode yet?

                          -Ben
                          Muh-soggy-knee

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                          • drpj23
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • May 2012
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                            #73
                            Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                            On the diode setting, the sec rectifiers come up .31 in one direction for each diode.
                            And I have not checked the snubber yet partly because I have no idea where that would be. But I have checked all the diodes on the board and all on the meter seem to be OK.

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                            • Mega
                              New Member
                              • Oct 2013
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                              #74
                              Re: Polaroid FLM-2601 - Power Supply keeps blowing fuse

                              I'm working on one of these power supplies. I'm searching for parts and the MC33260D is listed as obsolete at mouser. I can't find the chip anywhere. Is there a place to get parts that are out of production? I've used the cross ref at mouser and onsemi.com. But they only cross to other obsolete chips.

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