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  • pdavid
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2011
    • 279
    • Hungary

    #441
    Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

    If you live in Europe you see Codegen psus everywhere and you probably know the differece between a 300W and a 300W model
    Besides the model name the sticker tells you which build you're dealing with. The the orange ones where thrash, while the red ones wheren't that bad. The caps and heatsinks where terrible in most of them, but the other components where better in the red ones. Also the promsied PFC only exists on the sticker...
    If you've seen c_hegge's rebuild then take a look at this. I'm planning to give a facelift to this psu soon.
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    • goodpsusearch
      Badcaps Legend
      • Oct 2009
      • 2848
      • Greece

      #442
      Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

      It's not that bad compared to this and this

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      • Th3_uN1Qu3
        Believe in
        • Jul 2010
        • 6031
        • Romania

        #443
        Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

        Yeah, that actually looks alright. It'd do 300W in spec if it weren't for those caps.
        Originally posted by PeteS in CA
        Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
        A working TV? How boring!

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        • pdavid
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Jan 2011
          • 279
          • Hungary

          #444
          Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

          Originally posted by goodpsusearch
          It's not that bad compared to this and this
          Oh yeah, Eurocase and the blue Codegen. I always wondered why they put smaller spec components as they increased the labeled wattage... I guess getting cheaper and cheaper is the way to go huh.
          Last edited by pdavid; 02-14-2012, 01:12 PM.

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          • c_hegge
            Badcaps Legend
            • Sep 2009
            • 5219
            • Australia

            #445
            Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

            Originally posted by pdavid
            The the orange ones where thrash, while the red ones wheren't that bad.
            I've actually found quite the opposite. The orange ones often seem better built than the red ones.
            I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

            No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

            Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

            Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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            • mariushm
              Badcaps Legend
              • May 2011
              • 3799

              #446
              Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

              Originally posted by pdavid
              If you live in Europe you see Codegen psus everywhere
              I live in Europe but I never saw a Codegen.

              Here, the cheap power supplies are Delux, Premier, KME ... it's full of them, and they start at about 20$, including the 24% VAT.

              I bought a case for a test system for about 30$... came with a KME power supply.. don't even feel like opening it because they're all pretty much the same crap.
              It's the old half bridge design, PIV power supply with the 4 pin connector added to it... 3.3v @ 31A, 12v@19A ... yes, sure it is.
              Last edited by mariushm; 02-14-2012, 05:48 PM.

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              • Scenic
                o.O
                • Sep 2007
                • 2640
                • Germany

                #447
                Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                Originally posted by mariushm
                I live in Europe but I never saw a Codegen.

                Here, the cheap power supplies are Delux, Premier, KME ... it's full of them, and they start at about 20$, including the 24% VAT.
                Yep. Haven't seen a Codegen since the Pentium II/III days.
                On the other hand, we're getting flooded by "Delux" 450-550W units (in reality maybe 200W) and "Casecom" 420-520W junkers (worst of the worst.. you can get them with 15euro cases if that tells you anything..)

                Wasn't "Premier" a series by ATNG ? I remember the bargain basement PSU roundup on jonnyguru having a "Premier by ATNG" in it..

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                • goodpsusearch
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2848
                  • Greece

                  #448
                  Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                  Originally posted by mariushm
                  I live in Europe but I never saw a Codegen.

                  Here, the cheap power supplies are Delux, Premier, KME ... it's full of them, and they start at about 20$, including the 24% VAT.

                  I bought a case for a test system for about 30$... came with a KME power supply.. don't even feel like opening it because they're all pretty much the same crap.
                  It's the old half bridge design, PIV power supply with the 4 pin connector added to it... 3.3v @ 31A, 12v@19A ... yes, sure it is.
                  Here in Greece I see Premier/Deer/Allied/Force and Linkworld, Codegen, Maxpower/Rexpower. They start at about 11euros including 23%VAT.

                  I mod the Linkworld and Maxpower psus when they have decent transformer, switchers and semi-decent input filter. Codegen and Premier, usually I don't bother...

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                  • Th3_uN1Qu3
                    Believe in
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 6031
                    • Romania

                    #449
                    Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                    Originally posted by Scenic
                    On the other hand, we're getting flooded by "Delux" 450-550W units (in reality maybe 200W)
                    Are you getting the 600W Delux? That's the only one actually worth something and will do its labeled rating, it costs around 30 Euro. I've heard it was custom built for a Romanian distributor, so i want to find out if it's true.
                    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                    A working TV? How boring!

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                    • Scenic
                      o.O
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2640
                      • Germany

                      #450
                      Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                      400-520W. Mainly the ones with the turquoise 120mm fans.

                      like this one http://www.tiger-technik.com/images/...w-p4-12fan.jpg

                      There's currently only one that's a bit more expensive (~30eur) which is called "Delux DLP-388" and is supposed to be a 420W unit. No details at all. The only thing they list with it is the EAN, which is 6938820460015

                      edit: a "480W" with a few specs: http://cgi.ebay.de/110822551703
                      Looks about as generic as it gets..
                      Last edited by Scenic; 02-15-2012, 10:05 AM.

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                      • Th3_uN1Qu3
                        Believe in
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 6031
                        • Romania

                        #451
                        Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                        Nope, that's not what i'm talking about. I mean this one: http://arch9.okr.ro/auctions.v3/700_...57-700_700.jpg
                        Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                        Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                        A working TV? How boring!

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                        • Agent24
                          I see dead caps
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 4913
                          • New Zealand

                          #452
                          Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                          Dual-Core Power Supply?

                          "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                          -David VanHorn

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                          • c_hegge
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 5219
                            • Australia

                            #453
                            Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                            My Delta DPS 750CB is dual core. It has two PCBs.
                            I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                            No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                            Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                            Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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                            • Scenic
                              o.O
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 2640
                              • Germany

                              #454
                              Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                              ^ so does my Delta DPS-700FB

                              http://bambooz.pytalhost.net/badcaps...0/image006.jpg

                              http://bambooz.pytalhost.net/badcaps/DPS-700/

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                              • PCBONEZ
                                Grumpy Old Fart
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 10661
                                • USA

                                #455
                                Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                                .
                                Those are nice and heavy.
                                I had one of those fall on my head once when a shelf broke.
                                It damned near knocked me out cold.
                                .
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                                • Agent24
                                  I see dead caps
                                  • Oct 2007
                                  • 4913
                                  • New Zealand

                                  #456
                                  Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                                  Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                                  .
                                  Those are nice and heavy.
                                  I had one of those fall on my head once when a shelf broke.
                                  It damned near knocked me out cold.
                                  .
                                  Ouch!

                                  Well that's one way to tell the quality of a PSU....measure it in PCU (Potential Concussion Units)
                                  "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                                  -David VanHorn

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                                  • shovenose
                                    Send Doge Memes
                                    • Aug 2010
                                    • 6575
                                    • USA

                                    #457
                                    Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                                    DUAL CORE PSU
                                    That would mean it's got dual SMPS controllers...
                                    ah well I had a good laugh

                                    A PSU hit me on the head once when it fell off a shelf... but it was a Linkworld so I didn't even notice (no, I'm not kidding)

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                                    • c_hegge
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Sep 2009
                                      • 5219
                                      • Australia

                                      #458
                                      Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                                      Now that's perfect!! I can now sell my load tester off. All I need to do to test a PSU now is drop it on my head. If it doesn't knock me out, it's a fail!!!
                                      I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                                      No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                                      Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                                      Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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                                      • ben7
                                        Capaholic
                                        • Jan 2011
                                        • 4059
                                        • USA

                                        #459
                                        Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                                        Originally posted by c_hegge
                                        Now that's perfect!! I can now sell my load tester off. All I need to do to test a PSU now is drop it on my head. If it doesn't knock me out, it's a fail!!!
                                        hahaha!
                                        Muh-soggy-knee

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                                        • dmill89
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Dec 2011
                                          • 2531
                                          • USA

                                          #460
                                          Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                                          Originally posted by shovenose
                                          DUAL CORE PSU
                                          That would mean it's got dual SMPS controllers...
                                          ah well I had a good laugh
                                          I guess that would make the PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 1KW a tripple core PSU: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story4&reid=33

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