Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

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  • Agent24
    I see dead caps
    • Oct 2007
    • 4913
    • New Zealand

    #541
    Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

    Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3
    Can you believe this thing was trusted to power a C2D E6400 and 7600GS?
    Of course, some people have no idea...
    "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
    -David VanHorn

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    • goodpsusearch
      Badcaps Legend
      • Oct 2009
      • 2848
      • Greece

      #542
      Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

      It is a Linkworld

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      • mariushm
        Badcaps Legend
        • May 2011
        • 3799

        #543
        Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

        LOW ESR on those capacitors.... my ass

        Oh man ... ordered an esr meter last week, I think I'm gonna open the psu that came with a 30$ case I bought recently for a "testing stuff" computer.

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        • Jooo
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Oct 2011
          • 222
          • Finland

          #544
          Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

          Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3
          Powerlink LPJ2 "400W".

          4-diode treatment with lame 4A diodes. Non safety approved Y caps. No other input filtering to speak of.

          Primary: D13007s as main switcher, C5027S on standby. EI-33 label on the transformer... i ain't buyin' that. It's an ER-28 actually. 2x 470u Canicon caps, but judging by the can size real capacity is lower.
          Secondary: 20A schottky on +5v, 10A schottky on 3.3v, and 12A fast recovery on 12v. 12v diode is stuck directly to the heatsink without a silpad. Small output inductors (coupled inductor is on a T90 core). No pi filters. 2x 1000u 10v Fuhjyyu TM on +5v. 1x 1000u Fuhjyyu TM on +5vsb and 3.3v, both bloated. 1x 2200u 16v Canicon on +12v, and 1x 470u 16v Canicon on -12v. Weltrend controller.

          Can you believe this thing was trusted to power a C2D E6400 and 7600GS?
          Looks familiar. https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20168

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          • Shocker
            Banned
            • Dec 2011
            • 635

            #545
            Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

            Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3
            4-diode treatment with lame 4A diodes.
            I know 4A bridges, but not discrete 4A diodes.

            EI-33 label on the transformer... i ain't buyin' that. It's an ER-28 actually.
            AFAIK the number is the width of the core, which looks about right for an EI-33.

            Can you believe this thing was trusted to power a C2D E6400 and 7600GS?
            Nope

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            • Th3_uN1Qu3
              Believe in
              • Jul 2010
              • 6031
              • Romania

              #546
              Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

              Originally posted by Shocker
              I know 4A bridges, but not discrete 4A diodes.
              Sorry, i meant 2A.



              Originally posted by Shocker
              AFAIK the number is the width of the core, which looks about right for an EI-33.
              The EI-33 has a square bobbin (the center leg is square too), is a bit larger and has more core area. The one you see in this PSU has a round bobbin, the center leg is round, the inside of the outer legs is rounded too and it's smaller.

              Does it look more like this to you:


              Or like this?
              Originally posted by PeteS in CA
              Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
              A working TV? How boring!

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              • Shocker
                Banned
                • Dec 2011
                • 635

                #547
                Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                It looks about 33-35mm wide in the picture. Compare the width with the height maybe??? For what it's worth, most ERL-35s have a round bobbin.

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                • goodpsusearch
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2848
                  • Greece

                  #548
                  Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                  ACE AM608B1-300WS

                  This seems to be the 300W model of the AM607B1 that is 250W.

                  But instead of implementing better rated parts, it has significantly worse! Smaller heatsinks, tiny bridge rectifier, 330uF primary caps in place of 470uF and every capacitor is Fuhjyyu whereas the 250W model had some Teapos.

                  Some Fuhjyyu caps are bulging, but the output voltages appeared normal.

                  Do you think it is worth recapping?
                  Attached Files

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                  • Behemot
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 4845
                    • CZ

                    #549
                    Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                    Well, the heatsinks are not SO bad, there are even output inductors and something what could be considered inptu filtraction. So it is not lsot case. Have a look at the rectifiers rating, if uderrated, change them, if fast recovery, chaneg them for shottky. It may actually give the 300 W
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                    • goodpsusearch
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2848
                      • Greece

                      #550
                      Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                      Originally posted by Behemot
                      Well, the heatsinks are not SO bad, there are even output inductors and something what could be considered inptu filtraction. So it is not lsot case. Have a look at the rectifiers rating, if uderrated, change them, if fast recovery, chaneg them for shottky. It may actually give the 300 W
                      I see, but I don't think it could give 300W with these 330uF prijmary caps and the undersized main transformer. With the mods applied it may give real 250W

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                      • Jooo
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 222
                        • Finland

                        #551
                        Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                        Some more Linkworld for you.
                        They went cheap even on the warranty sticker! It didn't broke when I opened the psu.
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                        • goodpsusearch
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 2848
                          • Greece

                          #552
                          Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                          This looks actually good for 250W. Honest labeling

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                          • Behemot
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 4845
                            • CZ

                            #553
                            Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                            Originally posted by goodpsusearch
                            I see, but I don't think it could give 300W with these 330uF prijmary caps and the undersized main transformer. With the mods applied it may give real 250W
                            Well the mains affect mostly the ability to overcome power grid mini-drops. Yeah, with better capacity you get smoother voltage (it looks less like rectified 50 Hz sine which partially goes into secondary than), but big output capacity can handle that slightly as well.

                            As for the transformer, it does not seem SO small for 290 W
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                            • japlytic
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2086
                              • Australia

                              #554
                              Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                              PCline PCLAC90W

                              150uF 350V TREC on primary side and 2x 1000uF 25V on 15-24V output .
                              Two other electrolytics are Chang units.
                              GBU405 bridge rectifier.
                              IRF2807 MOSFET used as synchronous rectifier at 15-24V output - when I get a chance, I will make a circuit and post elsewhere on this forum, since this seems interesting .
                              FQPF8N60 primary side MOSFET.
                              NCP1377B SMPS controller.
                              350V electrolytic, underside and transformer top has thick heatsink washer-like mechanical dampening.
                              Attached Files
                              My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

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                              • Agent24
                                I see dead caps
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 4913
                                • New Zealand

                                #555
                                Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                                And all covered in that shitty brown glue...
                                "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                                -David VanHorn

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                                • tom66
                                  EVs Rule
                                  • Apr 2011
                                  • 32560
                                  • UK

                                  #556
                                  Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                                  PCLine is sold at PC World I think, and for ridiculous markups. It is pushed by the staff there lots.

                                  If you want dangerous and unreliable stuff - you can get the same thing from eBay for about £10!
                                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                  • Jooo
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Oct 2011
                                    • 222
                                    • Finland

                                    #557
                                    Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                                    e-market 250W

                                    Are those real teapos?
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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
                                      • UK

                                      #558
                                      Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                                      Teapo are crap caps... who'd fake them? Looks like Hermei/Jamicon vent.
                                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                      • goodpsusearch
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Oct 2009
                                        • 2848
                                        • Greece

                                        #559
                                        Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                                        not fake

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                                        • SIDMX
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Nov 2010
                                          • 165
                                          • Mexico

                                          #560
                                          Re: Power supply build quality pictorial. part 2

                                          Originally posted by tom66
                                          ...Looks like Hermei/Jamicon vent.
                                          +1

                                          I've never seen Teapos with that Jamicon-like vent and i'm not aware of TEAPO being inconsistent with the vent marks in their caps so they do look fakes to me.

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