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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #181
    Re: Help with Motor Control Board

    There is Zener diode connected to VDD pin and Ground of that MOSFET driver IC, check to see what DC Voltage you get, again this hot circuit so do not touch anything with your hands or body.
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    • Crrose
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2013
      • 165
      • Usa

      #182
      Re: Help with Motor Control Board

      No that is maybe a little shadowing but more of one of the solder joints to that resistor. I'll reassemble the board again and test that Zener.

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      • Crrose
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2013
        • 165
        • Usa

        #183
        Re: Help with Motor Control Board

        Ok the zener and that mossfet both tested at 12.1VDC

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        • Crrose
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2013
          • 165
          • Usa

          #184
          Re: Help with Motor Control Board

          I also just tested the diodes D9 D10 D14 D15 D16 which all look like they are identical. I get 0 reading in all but D10 which gives me an .5 ohm reading and it has continuity where the others don't. Does that sound right?

          It looks like D10 connect to DZ1 and then to the relay.
          Last edited by Crrose; 01-12-2015, 11:45 AM.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #185
            Re: Help with Motor Control Board

            So we do have power to run this MOSFET driver IC.
            D10: There may be another component connected in parallel with D10, you need to lift one leg or remove it off the board for proper test. Pictures and location on the board?
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            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
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            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • Crrose
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 165
              • Usa

              #186
              Re: Help with Motor Control Board

              Here is the picture, located on the bottom corner near where I had the bad zeners.

              This is the bottom of the board.
              Attached Files
              Last edited by Crrose; 01-12-2015, 12:52 PM.

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              • selldoor
                Slow Learner
                • Dec 2010
                • 7870

                #187
                Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                Originally posted by Crrose
                No that is maybe a little shadowing but more of one of the solder joints to that resistor.
                Did you miss word/words out of this
                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                • Crrose
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 165
                  • Usa

                  #188
                  Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                  By looking at the board the only thing it is connected to is the zener in DZ1 and the one leg of the relay switch.

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                  • Crrose
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 165
                    • Usa

                    #189
                    Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                    Originally posted by selldoor
                    Did you miss word/words out of this
                    No that was in response to your question possible shadowing or burn mark on the orange resistor.

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                    • Crrose
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 165
                      • Usa

                      #190
                      Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                      Here is another picture of where D10 goes. Not that great but I don't have color printer.
                      Attached Files

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #191
                        Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                        It looks like generic diode 1N4XXX series, remove and test it off the board.
                        Last edited by budm; 01-12-2015, 01:20 PM.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • Crrose
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 165
                          • Usa

                          #192
                          Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                          I removed D10 and it still shows continuity and reads .5 ohms.

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                          • Crrose
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 165
                            • Usa

                            #193
                            Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                            Looks like it's 1n4148 diode. I hooked it up to a 9v battery and got nothing so I guess it's shorted.
                            Last edited by Crrose; 01-12-2015, 02:03 PM.

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                            • Crrose
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 165
                              • Usa

                              #194
                              Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                              On my way to store to get that diode and the 2 large wound resistors.

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                              • Crrose
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 165
                                • Usa

                                #195
                                Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                Ok I just got the 2 large resistors, got 10w 1000ohm ceramic. Maybe not large enough cause they measure .831 and the original measure 1.442 in diode mode. I also replaced D10 and now it measures .609 but if I reverse the leads it measures 1.031. Motor still won't turn on.

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #196
                                  Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                  So the old two black resistors are both 1000 Ohms for sure?
                                  "Ok I just got the 2 large resistors, got 10w 1000ohm ceramic. Maybe not large enough cause they measure .831 and the original measure 1.442 in diode mode" You are measuring the resistors in Diode mode?
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • Crrose
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Dec 2013
                                    • 165
                                    • Usa

                                    #197
                                    Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                    Selldoor in post #145 said it was so that's what I got. However I have a new problem now. I was testing to make sure I still had the voltage from that small 8 pin mosfet and I must have shorted it or something because all of a sudden the treadmill motor just started at full speed. Now it won't shut off except by turning power off, even when pulling out the safety switch.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #198
                                      Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                      The Gate drive stuck high so the MOSFET is fully on when you shorted out the Gate drive IC TC1410, do not run it or you burn out the motor.
                                      So it proves that the drive circuit is OK, you just do not have the drive signal to drive the MOSFET.
                                      Last edited by budm; 01-12-2015, 05:08 PM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • Crrose
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Dec 2013
                                        • 165
                                        • Usa

                                        #199
                                        Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                        So do I need to replace TC1410 now?

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #200
                                          Re: Help with Motor Control Board

                                          You can remove it and see if the motor will still run at full speed, just do the quick test, if it does then the MOSFET is damaged.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                          Comment

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