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  • davg
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Sep 2008
    • 536
    • Canada

    #1

    My first try AOpen MB

    I just replaced 7 bulging caps in my old AOpen mb that was working fine prior to taking the bad caps out and now it will not start up. I get an audio that sounds like (cp-ou-fela). What does this mean?
  • PCBONEZ
    Grumpy Old Fart
    • Aug 2005
    • 10661
    • USA

    #2
    Re: My first try AOpen MB

    Check for solder 'splat' or solder hairs that are shorting traces.
    Check that you didn't slip a scratch a trace open.
    Check other side of board from work for SMD devices that got too hot and shifted off the solder pads.
    Make sure no caps got installed backwards.
    Remove CMOS battery for a few minutes then try again.

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    • davg
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Sep 2008
      • 536
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: My first try AOpen MB

      Originally posted by PCBONEZ
      Check for solder 'splat' or solder hairs that are shorting traces.
      Check that you didn't slip a scratch a trace open.
      Check other side of board from work for SMD devices that got too hot and shifted off the solder pads.
      Make sure no caps got installed backwards.
      Remove CMOS battery for a few minutes then try again.

      .
      Thank PCBONEZ been away haven't had a chance to re check the board. Got a feeling it's solder splat or hairs that is causing the problem it wasn't a pretty soldering job. for what ever reason I had a real problem with the soldering I guess I should have cleaned it first?? Anyway I will post again when I get back at it. By the way unless the board is printed wrong all caps are in right I did check that. I did read here somewhere though that one board was printer in error? If mine is I would have no idea which one is wrong. And I did pull the CMOS battery for about 10 min.
      Last edited by davg; 11-24-2008, 01:50 PM.

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      • Scenic
        o.O
        • Sep 2007
        • 2642
        • Germany

        #4
        Re: My first try AOpen MB

        Originally posted by davg
        I get an audio that sounds like (cp-ou-fela). What does this mean?
        CPU failure ...!?

        caps in wrong direction maybe..?

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        • momaka
          master hoarder
          • May 2008
          • 12170
          • Bulgaria

          #5
          Re: My first try AOpen MB

          Originally posted by davg
          Got a feeling it's solder splat or hairs that is causing the problem it wasn't a pretty soldering job. for what ever reason I had a real problem with the soldering I guess I should have cleaned it first??
          This is where an old tootbrush would come in handy. The harder the bristles, the better it would remove solder splatt.
          As far as cap orientation, google image your board, and see if your caps are oriented like the one on the image (though make sure the board is the same), or just ask someone here that has this particular board post a pic.

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          • davg
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Sep 2008
            • 536
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: My first try AOpen MB

            Thanks people I just ordered a new soldering station my old pencil type is not doing the job hopeing this will help improve my soldering skills.

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            • davg
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Sep 2008
              • 536
              • Canada

              #7
              Re: My first try AOpen MB

              Well I replaced the cpu in this board now I get the recording that sounds like testa-twl-auta-mostfela can someone tell me what that sound means? most importantly where can I find what these codes mean?

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              • lucky13
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Aug 2007
                • 412

                #8
                Re: My first try AOpen MB

                What is the model?

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                • davg
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 536
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: My first try AOpen MB

                  Its an AX-34 Pro ll

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                  • kiddznet
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 176

                    #10
                    Re: My first try AOpen MB

                    Every year in my town the council has a pre-cyclone rubbish collection whereby folks can leave objects that maybe a danger if flying around in cyclonic winds out on their nature strip for collection,
                    I got out early and bagged 6 dangerous PC's. one dishwasher, and one gas BBQ .

                    One of the PC cases had this board in it, Sure looks nice no bulging caps etc but as you can see the bios chip is AWOL. I have never had a 370 and believe this board can be modded for the Tualatin?
                    Around these parts I would be more likely to find the dead sea scrolls as a BIOS chip for this board
                    Anybody got any suggestions or is it back out in the rubbish?



                    939 DualCore AMD Opteron, 1800 MHz (9 x 200)
                    Abit AN8 / Fatal1ty AN8 SLI Series
                    3072 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
                    ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series (1024 MB
                    Lian LI Aluminium mesh case

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                    • kiddznet
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 176

                      #11
                      Re: My first try AOpen MB

                      Just to add mostly Rubycons and few YXG caps


                      939 DualCore AMD Opteron, 1800 MHz (9 x 200)
                      Abit AN8 / Fatal1ty AN8 SLI Series
                      3072 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
                      ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series (1024 MB
                      Lian LI Aluminium mesh case

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                      • kc8adu
                        Super Moderator
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 8832
                        • U.S.A!

                        #12
                        Re: My first try AOpen MB

                        found your bios.cant help you with dead sea scrolls though.sorry.
                        look above the empty socket.its the chip with sst on it.

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                        • kiddznet
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 176

                          #13
                          Re: My first try AOpen MB

                          Oh..there ya go ..wow this little camera is good!
                          Um..i got an AWARD PNC/PCI 686 chip out of an AMD board does this help in any way?



                          939 DualCore AMD Opteron, 1800 MHz (9 x 200)
                          Abit AN8 / Fatal1ty AN8 SLI Series
                          3072 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
                          ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series (1024 MB
                          Lian LI Aluminium mesh case

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                          • kiddznet
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 176

                            #14
                            Re: My first try AOpen MB

                            When I put on my ACME Mr Magoo reading glasses I see there is nothing in that slot anyways...

                            Thanks for help the board runs a treat....


                            939 DualCore AMD Opteron, 1800 MHz (9 x 200)
                            Abit AN8 / Fatal1ty AN8 SLI Series
                            3072 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
                            ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series (1024 MB
                            Lian LI Aluminium mesh case

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                            • pfrcom
                              Oldbie
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 1230
                              • Australia

                              #15
                              Re: My first try AOpen MB

                              Empty socket is meant for a backup BIOS chip, and there's probably a jumper nearby which gets board to boot from the primary BIOS chip soldered direct to the board, or from a backup BIOS chip inserted in that socket

                              Aopen's approach of using human intervention to fix a BIOS problem makes a lot more sense in my opinion than Gigabyte's "Dual BIOS" which has two soldered BIOS chips and relies on software to fix a low-level software problem
                              better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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                              • PCBONEZ
                                Grumpy Old Fart
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 10661
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: My first try AOpen MB

                                Originally posted by kiddznet
                                I have never had a 370 and believe this board can be modded for the Tualatin?
                                No mod needed.
                                Supports Tualatin out of the box, at least with the latest BIOS.
                                .
                                Kick butt board for it's time! [Except maybe for caps used...]

                                http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...o2/default.asp

                                http://usa.aopen.com/products_detail.aspx?Auno=150

                                .
                                Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                                -
                                Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                - Dr Seuss
                                -
                                You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                -

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                                • pfrcom
                                  Oldbie
                                  • Jun 2006
                                  • 1230
                                  • Australia

                                  #17
                                  Re: My first try AOpen MB

                                  Spec says it uses VIA 694X - needs to be a 694T for Tualatin support
                                  better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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                                  • PCBONEZ
                                    Grumpy Old Fart
                                    • Aug 2005
                                    • 10661
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: My first try AOpen MB

                                    Oops, you're right.
                                    - 694T is not the only VIA Tualatin chipset though.
                                    For some reason I was thinking 694X was the chip number for Apollo PLE133T which I have some of.
                                    Last edited by PCBONEZ; 10-04-2010, 01:07 AM.
                                    Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                    - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                                    -
                                    Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                    - Dr Seuss
                                    -
                                    You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                    -

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                                    • bigbeark
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Jan 2010
                                      • 661
                                      • Canada

                                      #19
                                      Re: My first try AOpen MB

                                      Originally posted by davg
                                      I just replaced 7 bulging caps in my old AOpen mb that was working fine prior to taking the bad caps out and now it will not start up. I get an audio that sounds like (cp-ou-fela). What does this mean?
                                      I have one of these boards. You should download the manual from AOpen.
                                      The sound you are hearing id the board trying to talk to you(!).

                                      No kidding, it's called Dr Bios or some such thing. I was never able to figure out what it was saying either.

                                      Make sure your RAM is fully seated in the slots.

                                      You probably have a cold shut - the solder didn't flow properly because your iron didn't get hot enough.

                                      When you get your new iron, try remelting the solder (reflowing). If that doesn't work, you will have to remove and re-install the caps. Tinning the pins can help.

                                      I've never understood people saying they can recap with a 20W soldering iron.

                                      You need at least 50-60 watts in my experience.

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                                      • shovenose
                                        Send Doge Memes
                                        • Aug 2010
                                        • 6575
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: My first try AOpen MB

                                        Lol yeah i had a p4 asus board thattalked too. I didnt realize it and it scared the shit outta me. I happEned to have my speakers on high volume and i restarted it and the rsm wasnt all the way in (i had been messing with it...) and it said like "cpufailure" but it talked wierd and really fast lol and my mom was like wth waa that!

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