WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

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  • proaudiosoft
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    • Apr 2012
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    WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

    Hello all. I just Bought a Sega Sports Jam Arcade Machine with the intent on fixing it, and maybe later converting to a mame machine. I have done many in the past The sound is heard, but the CRT monitor does not turn on @ boot. When i took the back monitor cover off the machine I found a white ceramic resistor that was just laying in the metal monitor cover. After inspecting a minute I noticed r242 was missing from the neck board, and a black spot was left behind. My question is: should I just order a replacement resistor, or should I further investigate to find out what caused the resistor to fail (and/or fall off). I am just wondering if someone could point me in the right direction of what to check for? The monitor is a WGM2792-U0TS29K, the neck board is a p858. Resistor is 10w 1.5k . I will attach pic of neck board...
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    Last edited by proaudiosoft; 09-02-2016, 07:10 AM.
  • proaudiosoft
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    Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

    One more thing, someone suggested it fell off because of a cold solder joint. I tested the resistor (pic attached), its reading 1.333K Ohms. Is it within tolerance to reuse?
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    • stj
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      • Dec 2009
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      Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

      dont mame it, it's waste of a real machine.

      the board has no heat marks, so it probably just fell out from cracked soldering.
      put it back and check the rest of the joints - specially on large parts.

      can you foto the factory sticker with the monitor details on it?

      as it's NAOMI based, you would be better getting a NET-DIMM board and loading games from a raspbery pi or a pc as a multi-game cab
      then you can put all this on it.

      http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=723
      http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=723

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      • stj
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        Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

        Originally posted by proaudiosoft
        One more thing, someone suggested it fell off because of a cold solder joint. I tested the resistor (pic attached), its reading 1.333K Ohms. Is it within tolerance to reuse?
        yes, it's probably fine.
        strange though, naomi systems usually use a japanese monitor.

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        • proaudiosoft
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          Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

          Originally posted by stj
          dont mame it, it's waste of a real machine.

          the board has no heat marks, so it probably just fell out from cracked soldering.
          put it back and check the rest of the joints - specially on large parts.

          can you foto the factory sticker with the monitor details on it?

          as it's NAOMI based, you would be better getting a NET-DIMM board and loading games from a raspbery pi or a pc as a multi-game cab
          then you can put all this on it.

          http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=723
          http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=723
          That is exactly what I plan on doing in the near future. (rpi3) I build bartop arcades for a living. I am attaching a pic of the monitor Sticker, if this is the one you want to see.
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          • stj
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            Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

            never seen that model number before.
            you know it may be medium-res right?

            i didnt mean use a pi to mame it, i meant use a pi to load games into the naomi unit.

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            • proaudiosoft
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              Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

              Originally posted by stj
              never seen that model number before.
              you know it may be medium-res right?

              i didnt mean use a pi to mame it, i meant use a pi to load games into the naomi unit.
              Yes, I know it is med res. I have Cloned sd cards with about 30 systems jam packed. No, I did not know you could run games from rpi to naomi unit. Thats awesome, how does that work exactly?

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              • budm
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                Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                BTW, you should remove ALL those Brown/Yellow glues off the boards.
                Last edited by budm; 09-02-2016, 09:11 AM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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                TV Factory reset codes listing:
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                • stj
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                  Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                  Originally posted by proaudiosoft
                  Yes, I know it is med res. I have Cloned sd cards with about 30 systems jam packed. No, I did not know you could run games from rpi to naomi unit. Thats awesome, how does that work exactly?
                  http://www.e-venturi.com/jamma/?page_id=1073

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                  • proaudiosoft
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                    Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                    Thanks, I will check out when I get this fixed. I re-Installed the resistor, still no monitor glow. I am getting a little bit of smoke, like steaming off. It looks to me like its coming from the heatsink I circled in red (attached pic). Any suggestions?
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                    • R_J
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                      • Jun 2012
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                      #11
                      Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                      That is one of the drive transistors for the crt, (my guess is green) I suspect it is shorted and the extra current through the resistor melted the solder and it fell off.

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                      • stj
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                        #12
                        Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                        check between the transistor leg for shorts, although i suspect you have other problems - the heater is not related to gun-drive.

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                        • stj
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                          #13
                          Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                          what screen size is it, 27inch? 29inch?
                          controls - digital or pots?

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                          • proaudiosoft
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                            Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                            Ok, thanks guys, gonna pull it and check it out now. It is a 27".... Digital, but I don't think I have the remote...
                            Last edited by proaudiosoft; 09-02-2016, 10:54 AM.

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                            • stj
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                              Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                              this may be it.
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                              • proaudiosoft
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                                Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                                Originally posted by stj
                                this may be it.
                                Yes, I think it may be one in the same. They both have the p858 neck board too apparently

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                                • proaudiosoft
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                                  Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                                  Originally posted by stj
                                  check between the transistor leg for shorts, although i suspect you have other problems - the heater is not related to gun-drive.
                                  The Transitor is a c3502e. it appears that it is a npn type from the data sheet i found online. E C B.

                                  I get .682 base to emmiter, and .679 base to collector.

                                  emmiter to base and collector to base shows open. from what I can tell its good.

                                  what should I do from here?
                                  Last edited by proaudiosoft; 09-02-2016, 11:43 AM.

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                                  • proaudiosoft
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                                    Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                                    Could IC201(video amp) cause the tube to not even glow if it failed?

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                                    • R_J
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                                      • Jun 2012
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                                      #19
                                      Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                                      Do you have the any of the voltages on P203? +8 volts is for the heaters, if you don't have it, check back to the power supply on D811 and R858

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                                      • proaudiosoft
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                                        Re: WGM2792 Arcade Monitor Resistor Burn Off On Neck Board *Need Help*

                                        Originally posted by R_J
                                        Do you have the any of the voltages on P203? +8 volts is for the heaters, if you don't have it, check back to the power supply on D811 and R858
                                        Yes, I have +8.63v dc at 203, also 12.3v, and 69v but still no glow?
                                        Last edited by proaudiosoft; 09-02-2016, 01:34 PM.

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