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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #401
    Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

    I agree with Rtech, check the resistance reading of the high voltage windings of the inverter transformer.
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    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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    • LuSiD
      Research addict
      • Mar 2011
      • 16
      • Greece

      #402
      Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

      Originally posted by LuSiD
      Hey guys,

      Am i the only one that has this powerboard in my Samsung 740N?

      See the attached pictures. The caps seem fine and are labeled 'JH'. What should I do? Does anyone knows what this board is and if it has the same problems with the common ones?

      Thank you
      Anyone?

      Hey above posters. Did you reply to me or someone else?

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      • Rtech
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jul 2010
        • 1095

        #403
        Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

        LuSID....your transformer is the same as the one we are referring to.HOWEVER you have not said what fault symptom you have ???/the other problem with your board can be caused by failure of one or more of the 4 Big black diodes.

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        • Behemot
          Badcaps Legend
          • Dec 2009
          • 4845
          • CZ

          #404
          Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

          You can check the transformer easily: set ohm meter to 2K and measure both secondary windings. Both should be within few % of each other. If one is much lower or much higher, it is bad and you'll have to replace the whole transformer.
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          • j00j4nt200
            New Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 1
            • Serbia

            #405
            Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

            Thanks to this thread I managed to fix my Samsung 940b

            There was a noise when blue led is blinking on standby and monitor wasn't waking up.
            - first I changed 3 820uF/25V caps - no results.
            - visual check - everything look ok.
            - checked 2 AF4502C mosfets - ok
            - checked t3.15a fuse - ok
            - checked small fuse - ok
            - checked some diodes - ok
            - changed 3 1000uF/10V caps - Monitor is Working, I hope it will stay that way
            Last edited by j00j4nt200; 11-15-2013, 08:16 PM.

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            • agun82
              New Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 2
              • Indonesia

              #406
              Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

              Hi guys,

              I'm new here, so nice to meet you all.
              I'm facing problems for 740N as well:

              1) Power Led is not on at all, even if I push the power button several times.
              2) I changed all three 820uf bulged caps with 1000uf/25v, and changed the 3A pico fuse (broken) , but the power led still not on.
              3) I already changed the TL431, power led still not on.
              4) All rectifiers are ok.
              5) 3.15 fuse is ok
              6) I have checked all CCFL with CCFL testers, all lamps light normally.
              7) Although the power led is not on, but when I measure the voltage of the output pins (as shown in the pic below, circled.. I borrowed photos from kharr)
              the readings are 5,1V and 14,8V. I know this should be 13V. Does 14,8V normal?




              Any help please? Thanks a lot.

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              • selldoor
                Slow Learner
                • Dec 2010
                • 7870

                #407
                Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

                We really need pictures of your boards - both sides - the one you have posted
                tells us little of your problem and cannot be effectively enlarged.
                The 12v is less regulated than the 5v and if the lamps are not lighting the voltage would rise a little.

                Do the lamps flash at all
                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                • lexwalker
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 307
                  • Malaysia

                  #408
                  Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

                  Originally posted by agun82
                  I'm new here, so nice to meet you all.
                  I'm facing problems for 740N as well:

                  1) Power Led is not on at all, even if I push the power button several times.
                  2) I changed all three 820uf bulged caps with 1000uf/25v, and changed the 3A pico fuse (broken) , but the power led still not on.
                  3) I already changed the TL431, power led still not on.
                  4) All rectifiers are ok.
                  5) 3.15 fuse is ok
                  6) I have checked all CCFL with CCFL testers, all lamps light normally.
                  7) Although the power led is not on, but when I measure the voltage of the output pins (as shown in the pic below, circled.. I borrowed photos from kharr)
                  the readings are 5,1V and 14,8V. I know this should be 13V. Does 14,8V normal?



                  Any help please? Thanks a lot.
                  Sounds like no response from the Dscaler board. Have you tried changing the capacitors for the +5V section? That one is the power supply for the Dscaler board. And just cross your fingers (hoping) that it wasn't a Dscaler problem...
                  Last edited by lexwalker; 12-27-2013, 11:09 PM.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #409
                    Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

                    Service manuals: Notes, there are more than one version of 740N.
                    http://elektrotanya.com/?q=showresul...oria=&kat2=all
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • agun82
                      New Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 2
                      • Indonesia

                      #410
                      Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

                      Hello, thanks all for your support.

                      I've installed third party inverter and the unit was able to lit, but it won't receive VGA signal CPU when attached to CPU.
                      Then I was able to get the exact same scalar board from a friend, turns out it was the MCU. I've swap the memory (A81SC) between two boards, and the old scalar board is still dead.
                      So, in conclusion, this particular unit got scalar board problem, and case closed, since it is difficult to find MCU replacement in my country, and changing new scalar board just too expensive.

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                      • mshone
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 53
                        • serbia

                        #411
                        Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

                        Originally posted by mladen82
                        No problem,
                        i repairing lcd monitors
                        this 740N board is replaced with new psu/inverter board (other model - better one) that works with same monitor, so CCFL are ok and in most such cases CCFL are ok

                        also i have many monitors that have only bad caps in secondary side, they are bad quality but this is not always main cause of their failing

                        you can check this Panasonic Reliability chart for Aluminium electrolyte capacitors to see why are all possible causes of failing



                        Some thing i miss to say about original 3A fuse is that may be an fast reacting fuse, also current consumption for inverter part with ccfl is about 1,75-2A, can't be more for this 17'' monitor, so that current can't blow fuse even fuse is fast
                        i just fix my samsung 740N. Didn‚t have original 3A fuse and replaced it /bridged from other side with isolation/ with -dont know in english, a thin wire, one form cable- one "licna" (here in Serbia, it is very common way ). I know that 1 "licna" is approx about 3,5A-4,5A and my monitor still working. I did it just because of curiosity. The picture is clear, but a have 2 thin vertical lines. I thing that the reason is bad connection or simmilar.
                        Last edited by mshone; 01-05-2014, 10:25 AM.

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                        • lexwalker
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 307
                          • Malaysia

                          #412
                          Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

                          Originally posted by agun82
                          Hello, thanks all for your support.

                          I've installed third party inverter and the unit was able to lit, but it won't receive VGA signal CPU when attached to CPU.
                          Then I was able to get the exact same scalar board from a friend, turns out it was the MCU. I've swap the memory (A81SC) between two boards, and the old scalar board is still dead.
                          So, in conclusion, this particular unit got scalar board problem, and case closed, since it is difficult to find MCU replacement in my country, and changing new scalar board just too expensive.
                          If the Dscaler board ever fail then its always going to be very difficult (searching for a spare board from the same monitor brand and model somewhere). As mentioned earlier, was hoping it wasn't the Dscaler board but unfortunately it was (as you've had found out). Myself also have at least two monitors collecting dust due to Dscaler board problems...

                          Originally posted by mshone
                          i just fix my samsung 740N. Didn‚t have original 3A fuse and replaced it /bridged from other side with isolation/ with -dont know in english, a thin wire, one form cable- one "licna" (here in Serbia, it is very common way ). I know that 1 "licna" is approx about 3,5A-4,5A and my monitor still working. I did it just because of curiosity. The picture is clear, but a have 2 thin vertical lines. I thing that the reason is bad connection or simmilar.
                          You can find 3A fuse easily in ATX power supplies used for PCs. Thus can look for them in scrap/faulty ATX power supplies. If those vertical lines stay in the same place all the time, then very likely the LCD panel is bad. Usually either the Tcon board and/or bonding tabs.

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                          • Behemot
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 4845
                            • CZ

                            #413
                            Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

                            Originally posted by mshone
                            i just fix my samsung 740N. Didn‚t have original 3A fuse and replaced it /bridged from other side with isolation/ with -dont know in english, a thin wire, one form cable- one "licna" (here in Serbia, it is very common way ). I know that 1 "licna" is approx about 3,5A-4,5A and my monitor still working. I did it just because of curiosity. The picture is clear, but a have 2 thin vertical lines. I thing that the reason is bad connection or simmilar.
                            Stranded wire I guess. But this is not really good…if it goes bad again, the problem would propagate further, destroying other components on the way. You can use more or less any type/size of fuse as long as you are able to solder it in somehow
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                            • mshone
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 53
                              • serbia

                              #414
                              Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

                              Originally posted by EGuevarae
                              There are 10 kind of people in this world: those that understand binary, and those who don't.
                              Like ! i am "1".

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                              • mshone
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 53
                                • serbia

                                #415
                                Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

                                Originally posted by lexwalker
                                If the Dscaler board ever fail then its always going to be very difficult (searching for a spare board from the same monitor brand and model somewhere). As mentioned earlier, was hoping it wasn't the Dscaler board but unfortunately it was (as you've had found out). Myself also have at least two monitors collecting dust due to Dscaler board problems...

                                You can find 3A fuse easily in ATX power supplies used for PCs. Thus can look for them in scrap/faulty ATX power supplies. If those vertical lines stay in the same place all the time, then very likely the LCD panel is bad. Usually either the Tcon board and/or bonding tabs.
                                Tnx for info about findig fuses. That kind of garbage we have a lot. I agree that a monitor is possibile fault, it was a toy practicly. Best is that i learned something new. Tnx again.

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                                • mshone
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jan 2014
                                  • 53
                                  • serbia

                                  #416
                                  Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

                                  Originally posted by Behemot
                                  Stranded wire I guess. But this is not really good…if it goes bad again, the problem would propagate further, destroying other components on the way. You can use more or less any type/size of fuse as long as you are able to solder it in somehow
                                  I agree, it was just experiment. Ill try to find original replacement, tnx for advice.

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                                  • lexwalker
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Feb 2011
                                    • 307
                                    • Malaysia

                                    #417
                                    Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

                                    Originally posted by mshone
                                    Tnx for info about findig fuses. That kind of garbage we have a lot. I agree that a monitor is possibile fault, it was a toy practicly. Best is that i learned something new. Tnx again.
                                    If you had opened up and fixed/repaired enough of those ATX PSUs, then should be familiar with that 3A fuse. Those two I've mentioned (with Dscaler board problems) was a Samsung SyncMaster 153V and Samsung SyncMaster 931BW. Just waiting for spare boards preferably for free and/or cheap bargains from other faulty units (with panel problems)...

                                    Recently revived a Samsung B2030 which was struck by lightning (pretty badly) but luckily the Dscaler board was not toasted. Every time a new different monitor came in for repair, its always a new learning experience in getting to know the monitor better (whether its disassembling it, or examining the boards inside). Now two more just came in, a BenQ T221W and a BenQ G920HD, both of which I had not laid my hands on before...
                                    Last edited by lexwalker; 01-06-2014, 05:51 AM.

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                                    • mawais15
                                      New Member
                                      • Aug 2014
                                      • 7
                                      • Pakistan

                                      #418
                                      Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

                                      Hello friends, I joined this forum after my syncmaster 940n stopped working the other day, dark screen with no display and no flashing led. Led continuously working without flashes.

                                      I've check the fuses, they're Ok, I've replaced the capacitors as well 1000uf 25V. Any idea of please

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                                      • selldoor
                                        Slow Learner
                                        • Dec 2010
                                        • 7870

                                        #419
                                        Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

                                        There are different boards in these machines good clear pictures would help us to help you.
                                        Does the screen flash on for a second when you first switch on?
                                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                        • mawais15
                                          New Member
                                          • Aug 2014
                                          • 7
                                          • Pakistan

                                          #420
                                          Re: Problems with Samsung 740N monitors

                                          I don't see anything on the screen when I switch on the power. It stays black with power led continously working. I'm attaching the picture. Thanks :-)
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