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  • aatroxed
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    • May 2014
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    #1

    Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

    My trusty Dell monitor is having issues and flickering off, sometimes for minutes at a time. The front panel buttons still glow yellow as usual, so power is still going through. When it flickers off and the dvi input is disconnected, it doesn't show the usual "no input signal" image so I'm pretty sure the problem is isolated to the monitor.

    After much effort I managed to take it apart (I'm a newbie) but can't readily identify any points of failure.

    Here we go. (I just realized the backs are useful as well. I'll those up soon if these are not clear).
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
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    #2
    Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

    It looks like one (next to the middle inverter transformer) of the 3 caps on the inverter board has domed top, or is it just the reflection.
    You may also want to read this thread:
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...007#post447545

    BTW, when it flickers off, does the LED on the front panel also flick off?
    Last edited by budm; 05-21-2014, 06:35 PM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • aatroxed
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      • May 2014
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      #3
      Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

      No the LED on the front panel stays steady the whole time.

      Are you referring to the inverter transformer in the first picture and the two small black domes near the power supply plug on the right hand side?

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
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        #4
        Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

        OK, the first picture is the power supply board, the second picture is the inverter board and 3 black inverter transformers. Now, do you see the cap with domed top?
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • stj
          Great Sage 齊天大聖
          • Dec 2009
          • 31002
          • Albion

          #5
          Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

          it is domed, the 3rd side-angle pic confirms it.

          goto say btw, i think that's the best set of foto's i'v seen someone post.
          what cam was it?

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          • aatroxed
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            • May 2014
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            #6
            Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

            @stj Thanks, I read a few posts and knew you guys need good photos to help

            Just an old nikon coolpix s6200 point and shoot I had lying around.

            I took a few more picks of the inverter to make sure. If it is indeed bloated, you think a swap could fix it? Does it sound like its the source of the problem I described?

            Can you visually tell if that fuse is dead?

            I also included pictures where there's some glue. How would you go about removing the glue to check the components underneath?
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            Last edited by aatroxed; 05-22-2014, 06:18 PM.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

              I would replace all 5 on that inverter board since we already see that you have bad caps. You have to use Ohm meter to check the fuse,
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • aatroxed
                Member
                • May 2014
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                #8
                Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

                I'm not technical to do it on my own so I'll have to take it in to a shop / repair guy. If the cost is much higher than a replacement, do you think its safe to go with this: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-...557005607.html

                Would you go for a used part or try to scrounge for a new board?
                Last edited by aatroxed; 05-22-2014, 08:39 PM.

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                • Lumberjack777
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 464

                  #9
                  Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

                  This is a great example of different options for different people.
                  For me, I'd simply replace those caps, and I'd pay 5 to 6 bucks at the most.
                  That board from Aliexpress appears to have the same Elite caps; so it will most likely fail again someday. But at least it will work for you.
                  But if some repair shop is going to charge you $25 at least to repair it. Well, who knows.

                  If you can find somebody to solder the new caps for $10 or $15, that'd probably be the best option.

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                  • aatroxed
                    Member
                    • May 2014
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                    #10
                    Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

                    What brand of caps might you use? The Elite, while they did fail, that was after 8 years.

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                    • stj
                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 31002
                      • Albion

                      #11
                      Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

                      i would use panasonic FR series,
                      but everybody has there own favourites.

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                      • bammbammfran
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 476
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

                        Originally posted by aatroxed
                        What brand of caps might you use? The Elite, while they did fail, that was after 8 years.
                        actually 8 years is not bad considering some I have seen
                        part number P12383-ND at digikey,com for the 220 x 25
                        Not sure what size the two small ones are ?

                        as Lumberjack said (no telling how long a used one will last)

                        and while it is apart, I would do the power supply too

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

                          I used PANASONIC FM/FR/FC series.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • aatroxed
                            Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 24
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

                            Great news. Found a local who said he can fix the panel for me. I did forget to mention to use quality caps, hopefully he knows better.

                            Thanks everyone. Yall been awesome diagnosing this. I will update later. Now hopefully I haven't forgotten how to put it back together...

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                            • aatroxed
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                              • May 2014
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                              #15
                              Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

                              Good news and bad news. The capacitors were replaced. All 3 big ones but the problem persists. It's so depressing, I really thought I had it in the bag.

                              As you can see, monitor is on and power button is yellow (its orange when computer is off) but screen is black.

                              Any other ideas?

                              Anyone think this might be related to my PSU + GPU?
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                              • jetadm123
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 2169

                                #16
                                Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

                                1) check fuse on inverter board.

                                2) verify new inverter caps are correctly installed.

                                3) re-seat wiring harness on inverter.

                                4) re-seat inverter ccfl connectors.

                                5) measure voltage at fuse on both sides with respect to ground.
                                Last edited by jetadm123; 05-28-2014, 01:14 PM.

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                                • bammbammfran
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Apr 2014
                                  • 476
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

                                  looks lit in the picture ????
                                  Try it in a dark room or look at the monitor from the back (this might show light leaking out through some small holes

                                  post a full picture of the back ?
                                  Last edited by bammbammfran; 05-28-2014, 01:41 PM.

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

                                    It sure does looks like the backlights are on. Did you put the LVDS cable back in place correctly?
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • aatroxed
                                      Member
                                      • May 2014
                                      • 24
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

                                      I will post pics but the monitor does turn on and I can use it. It just turns off intermittently for minutes at a time and at random. It's been fine for past 5 hours for example.

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                                      • bammbammfran
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Apr 2014
                                        • 476
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Dell 2007WPF Flickering Off

                                        well, that is not what you posted the first time !!
                                        "As you can see, monitor is on and power button is yellow (its orange when computer is off) but screen is black."
                                        Might be weak bulbs, could be a power supply issue which is why I recommended changing those caps too while it was apart

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