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  • Mirage00
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 58
    • Usa

    #61
    Re: DELL 2405fpw

    Originally posted by budm
    It sounds like they were having problem in the power supply section. You are having "no pictures problem". May have to Google "Dell 2405fpw - no picture Displays".
    Yeah, I have been searching for days. I can't find anything. Could it be the CAPS on the logic board?

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    • retiredcaps
      Badcaps Legend
      • Apr 2010
      • 9271

      #62
      Re: DELL 2405fpw

      Originally posted by budm
      Just have to find the service manual or if someone else may have working unit to take the voltage measurement to compare them with yours.
      Mirage00 has 2 of these units as per post #31.
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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
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        #63
        Re: DELL 2405fpw

        You sure have good memory retiredcaps.
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        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • retiredcaps
          Badcaps Legend
          • Apr 2010
          • 9271

          #64
          Re: DELL 2405fpw

          Originally posted by budm
          You sure have good memory retiredcaps.
          I can't even remember what I had for lunch today. If I didn't document the almost burnt bacon and eggs, I would have forgotten.

          Now is Mirage00 willing to take apart a good working monitor to save the other one?

          @budm, any chance the USB board is generating any voltages that are needed by the main board like the Dell 2007fpw that you did an analysis on? The two good voltage regulators have to be getting their 3.3V from somewhere?
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          • budm
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            • Feb 2010
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            #65
            Re: DELL 2405fpw

            I am not sure (you mean the 2407), I really expect to see a transistor close by the power pin of the T-CON connector. See example of the Dell 2007. The 5V for the T-CON must be coming from 5V buck regulator some where since this monitor has only 19V power supply (I believe).
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            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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            • retiredcaps
              Badcaps Legend
              • Apr 2010
              • 9271

              #66
              Re: DELL 2405fpw

              Originally posted by budm
              I am not sure (you mean the 2407), I really expect to see a transistor close by the power pin of the T-CON connector. See example of the Dell 2007.
              Sorry, I meant your analysis of this monitor

              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20531
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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
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                #67
                Re: DELL 2405fpw

                Oh that one too.
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                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • selldoor
                  Slow Learner
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7870

                  #68
                  Re: DELL 2405fpw

                  Hi Please can you test that orange pico fuse.
                  Also can you mark on the picture with the red squares ,the part nos so we know which is which.
                  Perhaps a close up well lit picture of the top corner marked out by budm and the back of that area would help.

                  Unless I have missed it there has been no comment on the result of your tests on the mosfets.
                  In the eservice post you mention it does say

                  "The IFR5305S drain should be at 5VDC. I measured this from a properly working monitor. This means a 3V Zener is incorrect. Use at least a 6.8V Zener which should be quite safe for downstream parts. I managed to supply 5V to the drain (after removing the burnt FET) from an external 5V SMPS and all works well."

                  Whereas I think you are saying you have 0.00 on the drain?

                  If the 5305S is not in the area for which the close up was requested can you do it as well.
                  Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                  • Mirage00
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 58
                    • Usa

                    #69
                    Re: DELL 2405fpw

                    I will get the info later today! I'm glad this thread is still alive, I was getting nervous.

                    Once again, I must thank everyone for their time and contributions. It still amazes me that I have people who are willing to take time and help me out for no other reason than they want to.

                    "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness"

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #70
                      Re: DELL 2405fpw

                      That PICO is the fuse after the DC output of the main 19V power supply that supply the power to all the boards, the voltage get stepped down to lower voltage by a bunch of regulators. If that fus eis blown, the whole unit will be dead, it uses about the same aset up as the 24xx sereis monitor, single output main power supply.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • Mirage00
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 58
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                        #71
                        Re: DELL 2405fpw

                        So nothing left to do from @selldoor's post?

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
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                          #72
                          Re: DELL 2405fpw

                          These need to be verify:
                          "Hi Please can you test that orange pico fuse."

                          "Unless I have missed it there has been no comment on the result of your tests on the mosfets.
                          In the eservice post you mention it does say

                          "The IFR5305S drain should be at 5VDC. I measured this from a properly working monitor. This means a 3V Zener is incorrect. Use at least a 6.8V Zener which should be quite safe for downstream parts. I managed to supply 5V to the drain (after removing the burnt FET) from an external 5V SMPS and all works well."

                          Whereas I think you are saying you have 0.00 on the drain?

                          If the 5305S is not in the area for which the close up was requested can you do it as well."
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • retiredcaps
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 9271

                            #73
                            Re: DELL 2405fpw

                            Originally posted by selldoor
                            "The IFR5305S drain should be at 5VDC. I measured this from a properly working monitor. This means a 3V Zener is incorrect. Use at least a 6.8V Zener which should be quite safe for downstream parts. I managed to supply 5V to the drain (after removing the burnt FET) from an external 5V SMPS and all works well."

                            Whereas I think you are saying you have 0.00 on the drain?

                            If the 5305S is not in the area for which the close up was requested can you do it as well.
                            The reading for the IFR5305S drain pin is 0.00V. If it is supposed to be 5V, then it is easy to verify.

                            I know if I had 2 identical monitors, I would have already done the voltage comparisons between the good and bad to know if the drain pin should be 0.00 or 5V.
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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
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                              #74
                              Re: DELL 2405fpw

                              That can be the switched MOSFET that feed the 5V B+ to the T-CON board.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
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                              • Mirage00
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 58
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                                #75
                                Re: DELL 2405fpw

                                Originally posted by retiredcaps
                                The reading for the IFR5305S drain pin is 0.00V. If it is supposed to be 5V, then it is easy to verify.

                                I know if I had 2 identical monitors, I would have already done the voltage comparisons between the good and bad to know if the drain pin should be 0.00 or 5V.
                                I have a stupid question. If the drain pin (center) is not connected to anything, why doesn't it matter.

                                Also, I would rather not remove the other monitor and start dissembling it but if I have to I will.

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                                • retiredcaps
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Apr 2010
                                  • 9271

                                  #76
                                  Re: DELL 2405fpw

                                  Originally posted by Mirage00
                                  I have a stupid question. If the drain pin (center) is not connected to anything, why doesn't it matter.
                                  The "fat tab" and pin 2 (center) are internally electrically connected.
                                  Last edited by retiredcaps; 06-29-2012, 06:45 PM.
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                                  • retiredcaps
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                                    • Apr 2010
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                                    #77
                                    Re: DELL 2405fpw

                                    In the other URL, it mentions D19 as being the diode that is shorted out.

                                    Power off, unplug the lcd and test your D19 with the diode test function on your multimeter. You should have 2 readings. Report both.
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                                    • Mirage00
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                                      #78
                                      Re: DELL 2405fpw

                                      Test it how? Sorry, not an expert........yet

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                                      • retiredcaps
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Apr 2010
                                        • 9271

                                        #79
                                        Re: DELL 2405fpw

                                        Section 7.3

                                        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...6&postcount=20
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                                        • Mirage00
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                                          • Jun 2012
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                                          #80
                                          Re: DELL 2405fpw

                                          Okay did the test and both readings were 0

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