Genius SP-HF1250X - 2.0 speakers

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  • bocca
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 107
    • Serbia

    #21
    Re: Genius SP-HF1250X - 2.0 speakers

    I do have visual access, but my speakers are at my home, and I'm at work, so I'll do all that when I'm back home!

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    • ben7
      Capaholic
      • Jan 2011
      • 4059
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Genius SP-HF1250X - 2.0 speakers

      Originally posted by bocca
      I do have visual access, but my speakers are at my home, and I'm at work, so I'll do all that when I'm back home!
      Ok!
      Muh-soggy-knee

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      • 999999999
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Sep 2006
        • 774
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Genius SP-HF1250X - 2.0 speakers

        Measure the voltage at the V+/V- pins and ground for the LM4558 as Ben7 suggested. If it is not so high as to damage the opamp, then replace the two large caps right after the diodes. If it is too high and damaged the opamp, replace that too.

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        • bocca
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 107
          • Serbia

          #24
          Re: Genius SP-HF1250X - 2.0 speakers

          Hi ben7.

          OK, i plugged it in again, and watched the speaker cone. It doesn't suck in, nor does it push out. It starts vibrating immideately, first small vibrations, for a second, and then with, i guess, full power.

          Measured what you told me. Upper black contact measures 0.48, and lower is at zero. Multimeteris set to 20V

          edit: that was with the speakers turned off. When I turned them on, voltage on the upper is about 9.27 (it's variable, but around that value), and on the lower is constant -0.7. Multimeter is again, on the 20V setting.

          Those black circles are legs of the two caps (100 uf, 25v).

          I am looking for the 4558 datasheet so i'll know where are v+ and v- legs. Then i'll do the reading
          Last edited by bocca; 07-05-2012, 06:02 AM.

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          • bocca
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 107
            • Serbia

            #25
            Re: Genius SP-HF1250X - 2.0 speakers

            OK, so here's the datasheet:

            http://html.alldatasheet.com/html-pd.../1/LM4558.html

            What should I measure? And should i do it with the speakers powered on?

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            • Evil Lurker
              Warranty Voider
              • Feb 2011
              • 454

              #26
              Re: Genius SP-HF1250X - 2.0 speakers

              I see NP on the electrolytics... are those nonpolarized caps?

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Genius SP-HF1250X - 2.0 speakers

                Pin 4 is B-, pin 8 is B+ on the OP-AMP. You put the black probe of the meter to the DC ground (you can use the RCA input jack outer body for ground, the red will be used fro checking the voltage with speaker on.
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                • ben7
                  Capaholic
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 4059
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Genius SP-HF1250X - 2.0 speakers

                  Originally posted by bocca
                  Hi ben7.

                  OK, i plugged it in again, and watched the speaker cone. It doesn't suck in, nor does it push out. It starts vibrating immideately, first small vibrations, for a second, and then with, i guess, full power.

                  Measured what you told me. Upper black contact measures 0.48, and lower is at zero. Multimeteris set to 20V

                  edit: that was with the speakers turned off. When I turned them on, voltage on the upper is about 9.27 (it's variable, but around that value), and on the lower is constant -0.7. Multimeter is again, on the 20V setting.

                  Those black circles are legs of the two caps (100 uf, 25v).

                  I am looking for the 4558 datasheet so i'll know where are v+ and v- legs. Then i'll do the reading
                  YAY, a problem! The lower should be just about the same voltage as the upper, but negative. So the lower one should be about -9v.
                  FYI: I traced the tracks, which was very easy due to the good pictures, and those are the + and - power rails for the opamp.

                  Can you please measure the resistance of R44 (its a 470 ohm resistor)?
                  Muh-soggy-knee

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                  • bocca
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 107
                    • Serbia

                    #29
                    Re: Genius SP-HF1250X - 2.0 speakers

                    will be done tonight people. Once again, you have big thank you for your patience!

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                    • ben7
                      Capaholic
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 4059
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Genius SP-HF1250X - 2.0 speakers

                      Originally posted by bocca
                      will be done tonight people. Once again, you have big thank you for your patience!
                      Any success?
                      Muh-soggy-knee

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