Seagate 7200.11 turds

[i4004]

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>No really, where where we?

we concluded hdds are crap, so we started to have more interesting conversation...heh...

[zandrax]

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we concluded hdds are crap, so we started to have more interesting conversation...heh...

Don't get someone started ...

[OT]@ PCBONEZ: Nice explanation, thanks[/OT]

@ Willa: did the new firmware solve your performance issues? Maybe you already wrote it, but I got lost following the thread

Zandrax

[i4004]

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yes, after he said he didn't lose anything(after doing update) we kinda started talking bollocks...

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...6&postcount=34

[gdement]

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I'm off-topic. Deleted.

[RJARRRPCGP]

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So motor is spinning loud ...

That seems to be typical of Western Digital HDDs. (a loud spindle motor)

[RJARRRPCGP]

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seems from the small data collected that the majority of fails are from thailand factory.

I have a 2008 Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB PATA and that one's made in Thailand.

It appears that 7200.10s are often made in Thailand
while the 7200.7s were often made in China.

While 2003 and 2004 Barracudas were commonly made in Singapore.

[RJARRRPCGP]

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Oh, and the bad Seagate Barracuda ST380013A 80 GB I gotten back in 2005 was made in China, IIRC.

[willawake]

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they released another firmware now

i bought a wd blue today for my old pc which i am moving to work. but it make a wierd motor sound. dunno if thats normal

i bought two more wd blue. these are extremely quiet. i think the other one is a turd

[ant3202]

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I got owned......
my drive is unable to detect in the bios, hopefully seagate gotta gget my files back ... or else, i got to bang my head on the fkin wall

[RJARRRPCGP]

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Then again, those 450-600 HP cars probably got what, maybe 10 to 13 miles per gallon, and required 93+ octane gas

Actually, not, unless they are turbocharged or supercharged.

Also engines rarely had a turbocharger or supercharger back in the 1960s and 1970s.

And high compression cylinders were rare back then.

I'm more concerned about now, because turbochargers are more common now.

The 2000s trend:

Smaller displacement engines with turbochargers.

Then likely means 93+ octane.

[bgavin]

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And high compression cylinders were rare back then.

Baloney.

Do you forget the Chevron 101 White Pump gas?
Perhaps you forgot 10:1 and higher pistons in the muscle cars?
My Harley had 10:1 pistons. Bump starting this required a tow vehicle.
My friend Ralph had 11:1 in his Mustang 289.
A late '60s Buick put out just about 500 foot pounds of torque on high compression engines.

My Mopar 440 Interceptor was good for about 6 mpg.

[RJARRRPCGP]

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Baloney.

Do you forget the Chevron 101 White Pump gas?
Perhaps you forgot 10:1 and higher pistons in the muscle cars?
My Harley had 10:1 pistons. Bump starting this required a tow vehicle.
My friend Ralph had 11:1 in his Mustang 289.
A late '60s Buick put out just about 500 foot pounds of torque on high compression engines.

My Mopar 440 Interceptor was good for about 6 mpg.

Maybe they did, but seems to be not many of them.


Like 99 percent of them were like 9:1 or something like that, likely because of detonation concerns. Probably so 87 and lower octane won't damage the engine.

And Audi has 13:1 or something like that with the RS4 and R8 and rev like a Civic Si and type R.

Also, in the 1960s, 400+ Ci was common.

While engines of the 2000s are rarely more than like 305 Ci.

[Per Hansson]

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I'm resurrecting this old thread and bringing it back on track by saying I just fixed a Seagate 7200.11 ST3500820AS drive with firmware SD15
It had the "BSY" error (not even recongized by systems BIOS and computer hanged when the drive was attached to the system)

I bought a new nice TTL interface because my old one was, well, not the prettiest thing in the world

Following this guide everything went great except for the instruction to reverse the TX/RX pins on the TTL interface > drive, I had to have them TX>TX and RX>RX so I guess my TTL interface is labeled "incorrectly" (or just more logically if you will )

I soldered my wires directly to the drives PCB because I could not find a suitable header for the drives jumper block, and I used cardboard from a milk box to insulate the drive connectors per the guide

After the process was done all of the users data was readable, now that I have recovered the data I will try to flash it with the latest firmware SD4A-2D tomorrow and then run Seagates test program on it to see if it works well, then I might put it to use somewhere

These where the commands I gave the drive and it's response;

F3 T>/2

F3 2>Z

Spin Down Complete
Elapsed Time 0.140 msecs

(Comment; now remove milkbox cardboard and secure torx screws)

F3 2>U

Spin Up Complete
Elapsed Time 6.410 secs
F3 2>/1

F3 1>N1

(Comment; now power cycle the drive)

F3 1>
F3 T>m0,2,2,0,0,0,0,22
Max Wr Retries = 00, Max Rd Retries = 00, Max ECC T-Level = 00, Max Certify Rewr
ite Retries = 0000

User Partition Format Successful - Elapsed Time 0 mins 00 secs

F3 T>

[Colt45ws]

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Interesting. I dont remember if any of my .11s failed in this manner. The last one had several thousand pending sectors.

[stj]

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i'v used that debug port to clear the password & lock bits on xbox harddrives.

i still wouldnt trust a maxgate.

[Rulycat]

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I have a 7200.12 and a WD drive and they both work decently. Hopefully SSDs will become affordable in the next few years.

[Per Hansson]

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I fixed another one
Same enduser, when the first one failed (the one that I repaired in the post above) he got it replaced under warranty...

Know what the suckers at Packard Bell did?
They put in a 7200.11 with the exact same firmware and also manufacture date!
09013

Just amazing work of them!
This one also works fine now that I did the recovery procedure, I have already flashed the first one with firmware SD4A-2D, it works great...
Will flash this one too but it was a pita because only 1 of 5 computers I had would let the firmware update thing run properly! (And of course this one had only SATA ports so I had to borrow a SATA CD-ROM from one of the others!)

[Shocker]

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What do you expect from Packard Hell???