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  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30979
    • Albion

    #1

    Flashplayer

    http://investmentwatchblog.com/firef...-sht-together/

  • pfrcom
    Oldbie
    • Jun 2006
    • 1230
    • Australia

    #2
    Re: Flashplayer

    Thanks for that

    I've been wondering why Firefox is saying Flashplayer isn't up to date, when I know it is

    And too indifferent to Google it
    better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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    • pfrcom
      Oldbie
      • Jun 2006
      • 1230
      • Australia

      #3
      Re: Flashplayer

      Just updated to 18.0.0.209 and Firefox is now happy
      better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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      • goontron
        5000!
        • Dec 2011
        • 4108
        • US

        #4
        Re: Flashplayer

        it's been like this for 5 years now.
        Attached Files
        Last edited by goontron; 07-15-2015, 03:32 PM.
        Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

        "Dude, this is Wyoming, i hopped on and sent 'er. No fucking around." -- Me

        Excuse me while i do something dangerous


        You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

        Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

        Follow the white rabbit.

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        • kaboom
          "Oh, Grouchy!"
          • Jan 2011
          • 2507
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Flashplayer

          Originally posted by pfrcom
          Just updated to 18.0.0.209 and Firefox is now happy
          Define "happy."

          A "one-click," permanent update for crashplayer:




          "One-click" is good; makes it easy for those who have "difficulty" finding and removing unwanted "options," if ya know what I mean... Though, if you wanted to remove and avoid anything, you'd never install crashplayer in the first place.


          Originally posted by goontron
          t's been like this for 5 years now.
          And that sloppy, CPU-wasting HTML5 only exists to steal crashplayer's market, not to actually function optimally.

          JS apps inside the HTML (instead of "classes" or "packages") and people wonder why the hell they need 4 quad core I7s to "put up with" fuckyoutube?!

          Take me back to the P3 days...
          "pokemon go... to hell!"

          EOL it...
          Originally posted by shango066
          All style and no substance.
          Originally posted by smashstuff30
          guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
          guilty of being cheap-made!

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          • goontron
            5000!
            • Dec 2011
            • 4108
            • US

            #6
            Re: Flashplayer

            Originally posted by kaboom
            Define "happy."

            A "one-click," permanent update for crashplayer:




            "One-click" is good; makes it easy for those who have "difficulty" finding and removing unwanted "options," if ya know what I mean... Though, if you wanted to remove and avoid anything, you'd never install crashplayer in the first place.



            And that sloppy, CPU-wasting HTML5 only exists to steal crashplayer's market, not to actually function optimally.

            JS apps inside the HTML (instead of "classes" or "packages") and people wonder why the hell they need 4 quad core I7s to "put up with" fuckyoutube?!

            Take me back to the P3 days...
            As for Youfail, my 600mhz single core AMD geode that pulls only 5 watts handles it great! Its the G+ that kills it.
            Last edited by goontron; 07-15-2015, 05:36 PM.
            Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

            "Dude, this is Wyoming, i hopped on and sent 'er. No fucking around." -- Me

            Excuse me while i do something dangerous


            You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

            Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

            Follow the white rabbit.

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            • kaboom
              "Oh, Grouchy!"
              • Jan 2011
              • 2507
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Flashplayer

              Originally posted by goontron
              Welcome to WebGL. As for Youfail, my 600mhz single core AMD geode that pulls only 5 watts handles it great!
              Who wants to plug holes in the dike when it's cheaper and better to build a new one?

              Especially when the potential for flooding is extreme...

              You can guarantee that google's gonna eventually fuck up the interfacing to webgl. So what if webgl talks to the video card as if it were opengl! You'll see wasted cycles, not with opengl itself, but with the boat that takes us to webgl. And that's if I believe that google/FF doesn't completely degrade their webgl implementation, in order to "upsell" their competing solutions.

              This should be obvious, since even the "fully ad-enhanced" youtoob one ran on P3-class systems.

              With IE6.


              As much as there is hype about interfacing to the video subsystem, this isn't the main issue. You know this already; shitty code that gets a pass because it just happens to be OSS (lousy browsers and excessive amounts of JS calling even more JS[youfail comments, for example]) is not the answer.

              This is all going to hit a wall, just like Prescott did. There are only so many ways to optimize power-hungry, long-pipeline architecture; the same goes for the "web of excess."

              And providing an "alternate experience" that's dumbed down, such as for mo-beel fones, is hardly an answer.
              Last edited by kaboom; 07-15-2015, 05:38 PM.
              "pokemon go... to hell!"

              EOL it...
              Originally posted by shango066
              All style and no substance.
              Originally posted by smashstuff30
              guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
              guilty of being cheap-made!

              Comment

              • goontron
                5000!
                • Dec 2011
                • 4108
                • US

                #8
                Re: Flashplayer

                Originally posted by kaboom
                Who wants to plug holes in the dike when it's cheaper and better to build a new one?

                Especially when the potential for flooding is extreme...

                You can guarantee that google's gonna eventually fuck up the interfacing to webgl. So what if webgl talks to the video card as if it were opengl! You'll see wasted cycles, not with opengl itself, but with the boat that takes us to webgl. And that's if I believe that google/FF doesn't completely degrade their webgl implementation, in order to "upsell" their competing solutions.

                This should be obvious, since even the "fully ad-enhanced" youtoob one ran on P3-class systems.

                With IE6.


                As much as there is hype about interfacing to the video subsystem, this isn't the main issue. You know this already; shitty code that gets a pass because it just happens to be OSS (lousy browsers and excessive amounts of JS calling even more JS[youfail comments, for example]) is not the answer.

                This is all going to hit a wall, just like Prescott did. There are only so many ways to optimize power-hungry, long-pipeline architecture; the same goes for the "web of excess."

                And providing an "alternate experience" that's dumbed down, such as for mo-beel fones, is hardly an answer.
                2mb pages with 100mb of adverts. I'm well aware. News pages trying to run like a local bit of code, and just as big! Can you say lag?
                Last edited by goontron; 07-15-2015, 05:41 PM.
                Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

                "Dude, this is Wyoming, i hopped on and sent 'er. No fucking around." -- Me

                Excuse me while i do something dangerous


                You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

                Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

                Follow the white rabbit.

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                • kaboom
                  "Oh, Grouchy!"
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2507
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Flashplayer

                  Originally posted by goontron
                  2mb pages with 100mb of adverts. I'm well aware. News pages trying to run like a local bit of code, and just as big! Can you say lag?
                  Can you say "not optimized?"

                  How is it that the browser's cache is not even 25MB, with one "scameo" open, yet the browser's RAM usage is (at least) 15 times that much?!

                  And code leaks randomly load one core to 100%?
                  What the hell is that?

                  On a dual core, one is fully loaded; perhaps on a quad core, two (or three!) get fully loaded.

                  "Mycometcursor" (lolz @ 1996) has grown up and gone heavy handed- the insanity has to stop.
                  "pokemon go... to hell!"

                  EOL it...
                  Originally posted by shango066
                  All style and no substance.
                  Originally posted by smashstuff30
                  guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
                  guilty of being cheap-made!

                  Comment

                  • stj
                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 30979
                    • Albion

                    #10
                    Re: Flashplayer

                    WEB2.0
                    you dont browse the web, the web browses you!

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                    • goontron
                      5000!
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 4108
                      • US

                      #11
                      Re: Flashplayer

                      Originally posted by stj
                      WEB2.0
                      you dont browse the web, the web browses you!
                      +1 Found this gem in the win10 preview. Yep, they track local accounts too! Local username is Root.
                      Attached Files
                      Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

                      "Dude, this is Wyoming, i hopped on and sent 'er. No fucking around." -- Me

                      Excuse me while i do something dangerous


                      You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

                      Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

                      Follow the white rabbit.

                      Comment

                      • kaboom
                        "Oh, Grouchy!"
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 2507
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Flashplayer

                        Originally posted by stj
                        WEB2.0
                        you dont browse the web, the web browses you!
                        Put another way, it's a two-way mirror.

                        Originally posted by goontron
                        +1 Found this gem in the win10 preview. Yep, they track local accounts too! Local username is Root.
                        Root's been "rooted!"


                        "g.live.com" ??? A google thing? I thought M$ "h8's" google.

                        Oh well..
                        127.0.0.1 g.live.com
                        127.0.0.1 live.com


                        ps- they also know you've been listening to Opiuo. They've got all they need to "Prenda" you, or anyone else.
                        Last edited by kaboom; 07-15-2015, 11:16 PM. Reason: entries for hosts file :)
                        "pokemon go... to hell!"

                        EOL it...
                        Originally posted by shango066
                        All style and no substance.
                        Originally posted by smashstuff30
                        guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
                        guilty of being cheap-made!

                        Comment

                        • goontron
                          5000!
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 4108
                          • US

                          #13
                          Re: Flashplayer

                          Originally posted by kaboom
                          Put another way, it's a two-way mirror.



                          Root's been "rooted!"


                          "g.live.com" ??? A google thing? I thought M$ "h8's" google.

                          Oh well..
                          127.0.0.1 g.live.com
                          127.0.0.1 live.com


                          ps- they also know you've been listening to Opiuo. They've got all they need to "Prenda" you, or anyone else.
                          The data they have on me is only "Off Chops"
                          Last edited by goontron; 07-15-2015, 11:52 PM. Reason: Off Chops. get it? Its an Opiuo track....
                          Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

                          "Dude, this is Wyoming, i hopped on and sent 'er. No fucking around." -- Me

                          Excuse me while i do something dangerous


                          You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

                          Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

                          Follow the white rabbit.

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                          • mariushm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • May 2011
                            • 3799

                            #14
                            Re: Flashplayer

                            This whole debacle made me switch youtube to the html5 video viewer.
                            The whole "experience" used to be crap but it seems these days it works great.

                            Already had Flash disabled by default with the "Flashblock" extension, enabling it on various websites when needed only. Makes browsing faster.

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                            • stj
                              Great Sage 齊天大聖
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 30979
                              • Albion

                              #15
                              Re: Flashplayer

                              i followed the bullshit when html5 was being developed.
                              it was 5% software and 95% political bullshit with constant attempts at DRM and vendor-lock.

                              Opera rep's wanted stuff that was copywrite free and open like OGG, MS and Apple wanted closed source stuff they held patents on with loads of DRM in it.

                              the result is the mess you have now.

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                              • momaka
                                master hoarder
                                • May 2008
                                • 12170
                                • Bulgaria

                                #16
                                Re: Flashplayer

                                I'm still using Flash-without-crash Player 10.3 on most of my PCs
                                As far as I know, no one has "taken" or "possessed" my computer due to security "holes". And YouTube still runs okay on old Pentium 4 systems.
                                Fuck patching and updating . Stay way out of date, and no one will care to make a virus for you . Kind of like wearing crappy clothes in the ghetto - no one will care to rob you because you just look too poor and not worthwhile.
                                Last edited by momaka; 07-18-2015, 01:18 AM.

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                                • goodpsusearch
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Oct 2009
                                  • 2850
                                  • Greece

                                  #17
                                  Re: Flashplayer

                                  10.3 does the job for me too. Thanks to this forum for letting me know

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                                  • SteveNielsen
                                    Retired Tech
                                    • Jun 2012
                                    • 2327
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Flashplayer

                                    Lubuntu updated to Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 yesterday and all is well here. Until next time anyway.

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                                    • diif
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2014
                                      • 6978
                                      • England

                                      #19
                                      Re: Flashplayer

                                      Only an idiot would knowingly run an outdated version of Flash. Get the latest version or uninstall it.
                                      Last edited by diif; 07-18-2015, 06:04 AM.

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                                      • SteveNielsen
                                        Retired Tech
                                        • Jun 2012
                                        • 2327
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Flashplayer

                                        Well I don't know about other idiots but I don't have time to check for the latest version of every bit of software on my computers, I'm too busy using them and doing other things in life. That's why I'm grateful that FF disabled it for me until a proper update was available.

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