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  • shovenose
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    • Aug 2010
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    #1

    Ssd

    ZOMG IS SO FAST!!
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  • c_hegge
    Badcaps Legend
    • Sep 2009
    • 5219
    • Australia

    #2
    Re: Ssd

    The other advantage of an SSD is that they are not prone to mechanical failures, as there are no moving parts, so IMO, they are more reliable than a HDD (especially considering how unreliable all HDD manufacturers are nowadays)
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    • acstech
      GrumpyModerator
      • Jul 2007
      • 1432
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Ssd

      Which one did you get, what are you using it in, etc...?
      A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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      • shovenose
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        • Aug 2010
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        #4
        Re: Ssd

        It's a Lenovo IdeaPad V570.
        Core i5-2410M, 6GB RAM, Kingston SSDnow V100 64GB
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        Last edited by shovenose; 03-11-2012, 10:16 AM.

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        • smason
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 1652
          • Canada

          #5
          Re: Ssd

          Told ya so.
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          • Uranium-235
            Comrade Glimmer
            • Aug 2007
            • 5042
            • US

            #6
            Re: Ssd

            Originally posted by c_hegge
            The other advantage of an SSD is that they are not prone to mechanical failures, as there are no moving parts, so IMO, they are more reliable than a HDD (especially considering how unreliable all HDD manufacturers are nowadays)
            partially true. They will eventually slow down and die. Depends on how often its used and how much its used

            edit: my box takes 10 seconds to boot too, but I have 2 WD Velociraptors in raid 1
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            • Krankshaft
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              • Jan 2007
              • 2328
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              #7
              Re: Ssd

              A whole 64gb oh goodie. Is it the year 2002 again ?

              Not interested until SSD gets in the price range and storage range of the current mechanical hard drives 1-2 tb.

              Price wise they don't seem practical for general purpose storage unless you have real deep pockets for the larger ones.

              Both those seek times are very appealing .
              Last edited by Krankshaft; 03-12-2012, 04:12 PM.
              Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.

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              • acstech
                GrumpyModerator
                • Jul 2007
                • 1432
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Ssd

                That's why I got the 120GB one for $130...

                Not that long ago, I thought pretty much the same thing. That being, too much money, not enough space. That was until I figured out how they're supposed to be used.

                The idea is to load your programs and operating system on the SSD, then get a large slow mechanical hard drive for storage. It's not meant to replace a mechanical hard drive, it's meant to augment a mechanical hard drive. The specific purpose is to speed up your operating system and programs.

                You're not buying space, you're buying speed.
                A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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                • dood
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 2462
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Ssd

                  Originally posted by acstech
                  That's why I got the 120GB one for $130...

                  Not that long ago, I thought pretty much the same thing. That being, too much money, not enough space. That was until I figured out how they're supposed to be used.

                  The idea is to load your programs and operating system on the SSD, then get a large slow mechanical hard drive for storage. It's not meant to replace a mechanical hard drive, it's meant to augment a mechanical hard drive. The specific purpose is to speed up your operating system and programs.

                  You're not buying space, you're buying speed.
                  Yeah, but... my Steam folder alone is over 120gb
                  Ludicrous gibs!

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                  • acstech
                    GrumpyModerator
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 1432
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Ssd

                    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226237

                    It's less than $1 / gigabyte...
                    A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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                    • ratdude747
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                      • Nov 2008
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                      #11
                      Re: Ssd

                      ^and I bet it uses a lot of power and is slow (for an SSD too... you get what you pay for sometimes.
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                      • mariushm
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                        • May 2011
                        • 3799

                        #12
                        Re: Ssd

                        Originally posted by dood
                        Yeah, but... my Steam folder alone is over 120gb
                        Why would you install games on C: ? C: is traditionally for operating system, not movies and games.

                        Went through this with another guy on Jonnyguru's forums...

                        You don't have to keep Steam on C:, it works just fine from any other partition. Mine is on K:

                        Just copy folder, edit 2-5 registry keys (change paths to point to new folder), reboot.

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                        • Topcat
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                          • Oct 2003
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                          • United States

                          #13
                          Re: Ssd

                          I'll take the slightly lower speeds but the reliability bonuses + RAID abilities with my old spinners... Not quite ready to jump on the SSD bandwagon yet. A few more years of seasoning, they will be ready.
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                          • acstech
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                            • Jul 2007
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                            #14
                            Re: Ssd

                            Originally posted by ratdude747
                            ^and I bet it uses a lot of power and is slow (for an SSD too... you get what you pay for sometimes.
                            Well I don't know about that. I stated what the speeds were with my 120GB version of that drive in my SSD thread. I'd hardly call that slow. Are there faster ones? Yes. But that last few percentage points just don't make sense when you figure in the cost difference.

                            Edit: From what I read, with SSD's, usually the larger drives are faster than the smaller ones, in the same brand / product line anyway.

                            Edit2: Jump on in TC! The water's fine!
                            Last edited by acstech; 03-13-2012, 11:45 AM.
                            A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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                            • Per Hansson
                              Super Moderator
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 5895
                              • Sweden

                              #15
                              Re: Ssd

                              Originally posted by ratdude747
                              ^and I bet it uses a lot of power and is slow (for an SSD too... you get what you pay for sometimes.
                              It uses the Sandforce 2xxx controller which is the fastest thing on the market currently.
                              Or put differently; It simply has a good price

                              TOPCAT; SSD's can be raided too, works great...
                              We actually have 2x Micron P300 100GB SLC SSD's in a RAID-1 on our new server for Techspot
                              Last edited by Per Hansson; 03-13-2012, 11:46 AM.
                              "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                              • shovenose
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                                • Aug 2010
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                                #16
                                Re: Ssd

                                Now... 48x SSDs in RAID 0 would be epic paired with dual 8-core Intel Xeons, 32GB of RAM, and an additional 48x WD Raptors in RAID 0 (for storage, the SSDs would be for OS/games)...

                                Anybody got a few million bucks to waste to try that?

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                                • Per Hansson
                                  Super Moderator
                                  • Jul 2005
                                  • 5895
                                  • Sweden

                                  #17
                                  Re: Ssd

                                  Shovenose, it would be about this good
                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs
                                  "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                                  • mariushm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • May 2011
                                    • 3799

                                    #18
                                    Re: Ssd

                                    Yeah, I was about to post that youtube video.

                                    Even more awesome was that they were only to get over 2GB per second with 10 or 16 ssd drives out of 24.

                                    The hardware raid intel controller on the 24 port areca card was just not powerful enough to route the data to all 24 sata ports and keep the transfer speed high.

                                    Those SSD drives had something like 150 MB/s max read speed - nowadays you get to 260-450 MB/s with each one.

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                                    • ncovert
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                                      • Feb 2011
                                      • 291
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Ssd

                                      Wow... 64Gb is actually still quite useful... I still haven't filled my 500Gb drive ΒΌ of the way yet!

                                      edit: I still have over 400Gb free space
                                      Last edited by ncovert; 03-13-2012, 12:15 PM. Reason: more info on hdd

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                                      • dood
                                        Deputy dood
                                        • Mar 2004
                                        • 2462
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Ssd

                                        Originally posted by mariushm
                                        Why would you install games on C: ? C: is traditionally for operating system, not movies and games.

                                        Went through this with another guy on Jonnyguru's forums...

                                        You don't have to keep Steam on C:, it works just fine from any other partition. Mine is on K:

                                        Just copy folder, edit 2-5 registry keys (change paths to point to new folder), reboot.
                                        You install games on C: if C: is your fastest drive, and you want to wait the least amount of time at the loading screens. Any game with an open world will be loading off the drive constantly as you move (even with 8gb of RAM). A slow drive leads to stuttering during gameplay.
                                        Ludicrous gibs!

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